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Constellation 167.005 redail?

Mic341799
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Hi All,

Thinking of buying this constellation 167.005.
It looks polished, is it a redail?
Still ok?

Thanks,
Michel

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gatorcpa
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From the overexposed pictures, this looks like a listing from Closer in Japan.

Dial looks original to me and case has been polished, but not terribly so. But the overly bright pictures can hide a lot of flaws. In addition, Closer has started to charge ridiculous shipping costs to hide tariffs.

Be careful.
gatorcpa
 
Dan S
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Dial looks ok to me. I expect there will be surface defects in person.
 
ErichKeane
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A question for others: is that wonky O in Chronograph (the 2nd one) original? Looks a little goofy to me.
 
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A question for others: is that wonky O in Chronograph (the 2nd one) original? Looks a little goofy to me.
A known trait on some Constellations.

A bit like the odd ‘C’ in OFFICIALLY - not so pronounced but something to look out for as a sign of an authentic dial.
 
Mic341799
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Thank you for the replies. I will think about it. Maybe I will look further. It is not from Japan, but I think the pictures where taken by the store who did sell it to the current owner. Here are some more pics.

Thanks, Michel

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Peemacgee
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@Mic341799
The pics really aren’t good enough to assess the dial properly but I quite like this watch.
I think it would look very good on the wrist.

However, how desirable it is would very much depend on cost ( and on getting some decent dial pics)
 
gatorcpa
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Case seems to be in nicer condition that you originally described. Can’t say much about dial from the angles shown. Crystal could use a Polywatch polish.

Now it comes down to price.
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Mic341799 Mic341799
Thank you for the replies. I will think about it. Maybe I will look further. It is not from Japan, but I think the pictures where taken by the store who did sell it to the current owner. Here are some more pics.

Thanks, Michel

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Do you have any movement pics?
 
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@Mic341799
The pics really aren’t good enough to assess the dial properly but I quite like this watch.
I think it would look very good on the wrist.

However, how desirable it is would very much depend on cost ( and on getting some decent dial pics)

Thanks you, asking price is around 1800 euro.
 
gatorcpa
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For US$2,100, I would expect an original bracelet.

I think this could be a good buy at a lower price.
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Peemacgee
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Couple of things.

I was also going to mention the non-Omega bracelet.

If the dial is clean and you could get the price down to nearer €1,500 then this could be a watch you could enjoy.
 
Mic341799
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Thank you all. I will skip it. I have another option, a 168.005, which is cheaper but has some uneven patina/ tarnish. I can post pictures here, or should I open another thread? Happy new year!
 
gatorcpa
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The non-date versions are far more scarce than the with date versions and many collectors prefer them. They carry a slight premium. Without looking at the other watch, uneven tarnish/patina would put me off one of these.

I think our collective conclusion here is that you try to make a deal on this watch at a more reasonable price if seller is willing to negotiate.

gatorcpa
 
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The non-date versions are far more scarce than the with date versions and many collectors prefer them. They carry a slight premium. Without looking at the other watch, uneven tarnish/patina would put me off one of these.

I think our collective conclusion here is that you try to make a deal on this watch at a more reasonable price if seller is willing to negotiate.

gatorcpa
exactly this ⬆️
 
ErichKeane
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I personally would rather overpay for a good watch, than get a deal for a watch that isn't good.

IMO, 1800 Euro IS an overpay for this, but not criminally so. IF it was a dealer I trusted/liked, and a watch that DID it for me (I'm an oddball, I want a date pie pan connie 😀 ), I'd pay the 1800 (or whatever you could negotiate down to), and cry once rather than every time I wore the watch.
 
Dan S
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In this condition, I would not pay more than $1500 USD. I just saw a much better example with BoR bracelet sell at auction for about $1600 USD.

The OP watch is not bad, and worth buying at the right price. I just find the condition to be about average, and there is no bracelet.
 
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