Hi! I've recently stumbled into the wonderful world of vintage Omegas but lack sufficient knowledge in determining their authenticity. All watches were posted on a local auction site. I would like to know if they're real and whether its price is reasonable.

Here's the Constellation:

The seller said that it's a 551 movement from the 1960s. I can't seem to find any reference photos online of the black version. The case back cover says 167.005, but after researching I believe the watch should have a 168 instead. I'm fine with the watch having a replacement case back cover as long as it's real. He's asking around $820 for the watch.

Here's the 101.009-63:

I searched for the serial number online and couldn't fine one without the tachymetre. He's asking $888 for it.

Lastly, a 1960s Seamaster:

This one looks pretty legit to me. It's got a 552 movement and he's asking $450 for it.

Thanks!

 

My opinions :
I suspect the black faced Connie is a redial. It doesn't look vintage. The crosshairs should go to the end of the dial. If someone here thinks it is original you could buy that and easily sell it for double.
In not familiar with two register chrons here but shouldn't this be a Deville?
The seamaster has been polished. I'd want to get a closer look at the minute track before buying it because it's hard to see but it may not look uniform. If all checks out it isn't a crazy asking price when going through a dealer for the seamaster.

And please ask why mother goose is the background of choice for his watches. Maybe some of his watches are goose eggs?

 

If the connie is a redial, it looks pretty well done to me.

 

Quite sure the chrono is a redial, I've not looked them up (op's job?) but I don't like the look of the numbers by the hour markers.

 

I suggest you use the forum search facility and look for a thread titled something like "teach a man to fish" there is much you can learn there.

 

Hi thanks to everyone for the input!
@BenBagbag , what do you mean by "the crosshairs should go to the end of the dial"?
@shaun hk , I've read that thread but I'm still unsure so that's why I created a new thread. I did some extra digging with regards to the chrono and the numbers are in a different font. So sadly they're not the real thing
Can anyone provide some extra input regarding the Constellation? I've fallen in love with it and I'm really hoping it's the real deal and not another goose egg

 

What kind of vendor would advertise elegant, vintage watches with Mother Goose graphics behind them. Why would anybody want to detract or distract in that way?

 

It might be an unpopular opinion but, personally, I think the aversion to redials in this forum is a bit over the top. I've had a redial done in the past when the dial was damaged beyond the point of being attractive. It was very well done and I much preferred it after the redial.

Watches are about enjoyment for me. If you're in love with a watch and can't tell whether or not it's a redial, why would you see it as a "goose egg"?

 

A 321 with two subdials?

 

There is a 2 subdial variant of the movement with another movement number, but I'm not going to look it up and what's correct for that watch on mobile.

Watch 3 is polished to hell and back.

Watch 1 looks good but I'm not an expert on those dials and how far the crosshairs extends. Also needs a movement to reference check but I'm on mobile and lazy.

Watch 2... reference to movement check and check for dial accuracy from other examples.

Are these watches coming out of Korea or outside Los Angelas?

 

It's a cal 320, just like the reference should have. The dial has been repainted.

I don't like any of these, sorry.

 

OP movt is a 321
Altogether dodgy watch

 

167 is a correct Connie reference but my 'Spidey sense' says be careful about that dial
Looking on my phone - so can't scrutinise in detail
Black insert hands and silver indices?

 

Yeah, could someone point me to where I can hand in my OF membership card, please?

On the sunny side, having a worthless dial makes a cal. 321 in the watch more valuable... I for one wouldn't mind a few parts of that watch.

 

Well what it is in reality we have no idea. Is it a 321 with the hour recorder removed? Possibly. Is it a 320 with a replacement balance cock? Possibly. Is it a dodgy watch? Definitely!

 

If a seller cant shoot a pix straight on with these Constellations, that is telling a whole bunch to me.