Hello all. Every time I come across a conquest ref 9021 or 9025 I fall in love and I can't get over the beauty of the watch. I have finally given in and I have decided I'm going to pursue this watch ( not the one I post per se).

I was wondering what you guys consider a reasonable price range for a good example of the time piece in question?

Also opinions on this ( I know it's dangerous to post an auction if you might actually try to win it ). From what I can tell the dial looks original and not a redial, and the hands as well but I can't really tell on the crown. Opinions on the dial / case conditions?

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Thanks in advance, Euxinus.

 

That particular watch is one I'd pass on for a few reasons. First, the medallion is missing all the black enamel in the lettering and some of the blue enamel. There are too many perfect examples out there to settle. Second, the rotor's lettering is wearing off. Lastly, I'm not sure that is a correct / original crown for that model. It looks like the ones used on Admirals, Grand Prizes, and some Flagship models, plus the shade of gold is slightly different. The positive is that the dial is very nice and it's an otherwise honest watch.

I don't know if I should comment on price because I'm working off the 2011 list in my head, but for that kind of money I'd want a better example.

 

Thank you very much for the opinion, I to thought the crown was incorrect, I was not considering this watch to seriously for the same reasons you mentioned, but as far as pricing goes on these I am unfamiliar, I think I saw a good example go for 2200 ish last year on the forums but I'm not sure. Ideally I would like to purchase of forums and not the bay!

 

You'd have to pry one from some member's cold dead hands most likely. It's not often that you'll see somebody here offering up a pristine one for sale.

...... there was this one fool last year though...... ain't that right, @Hijak?

 

The case edges are also rounded from polishing. I would pass on this one and wait for a better example.

 

Sure was!

He foolishly sold me a few watches last year.

 

Fantastic model.

 

That is an incredible capture! Looks like liquid gold..

 

Making me so jealous this is one of my grail watches, luckily it's on the more affordable end of the spectrum as far as most grains go!

Such a nice watch there are no words to describe it's beauty.

 

We do have a few here on the Forum.

Mine:

 

For the gold diggers amongst us (like me) who wondered how luxurious a Deluxe dial exactly is:

 

The mass indicated on the scale could be incorrect since it appears to be on grass. A hard surface is required for a proper measurment. Since the surface is compressible, it would cause to mass to be indicated lower by the scale than it actually is, although on such a small mass the error is probably small.

 

Hmmm well spotted.

This theory might explain why I tend to prefer to weigh myself with the scale on a thick fluffy bathmat...

 

I think the 'feet' on Bart's scale are contained within the mechanism, so the only stipulation would be that the scale be laying on a flat surface. With a bathroom scale (@BartH 's other one ), the 'feet' or base is external, and reliant on a non-compressible surface, like you mentioned..

On the other hand, if the scale were laying on a bed of diamonds instead of just grass...

 

I stipulate that with even that point you made about the feet being internal, some of the gravitational force generated by the mass of the dial would go to compressing the grass under the hard plastic base instead of pushing the metal scale down on the feet. Though the effect would be smaller since the base of the plastic is larger then just 4 feet, there by resulting in less pressure applied to the grass, resulting in less compression.

Interesting point though, love to analysis physical / thermal systems ( this one not being thermal , just thought I would mention ).

 

Even though the grass is being compressed while the object is placed on the scale, once motion ceases and the scale and the object are static, the correct reading will be displayed as the combined mass of the objects can only compress the grass to a point where it will compress no further, unless more mass is applied.

 

I still have to disagree since a constant amount of force is required to keep the grass compressed at the steady state position of the system. Since I have two people disagreeing with me il conduct some experiments but I won't be able to do so for a couple days as I'm in a road trip and not at home.

Edit: although this thread is super of topic at the moment if anyone has anything to chime in about the original topic please do as these watches are just breathtaking!

 

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Probably deserves it's own separate thread, if not a brand new Category (Applied Newtonian Physics: Jewelers scales vs. Bathroom scales )...

 

https://www.newscientist.com/article/dn2462-people-weigh-less-on-a-hard-surface/


Small scale like the one above I would agree with @JimInOz as the scale is supported by the frame the scale is on.

I would always use a flat level surface myself.

 

Had to fix your suggestion. Electronic/Digital scales use load cells which are absolutely unaffected by carpet or grass.