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Condition question on vintage speedmaster
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oddboy
·Is the watch running? If so, it's better than poor.
Hard to tell about condition in these pics. Appears to be some spotting on the dial which often means water damage. Is it a 105.012-65?
Dial is not super great, but looks OK from afar. Case looks OK, but the pics are taken to accentuate the edges. Pushers are obviously different. DON is better than many, but not great
As always, depends on price and whether it calls to you.
For me, somewhere just above running, maybe 6.5k or so by The Chart.
Hard to tell about condition in these pics. Appears to be some spotting on the dial which often means water damage. Is it a 105.012-65?
Dial is not super great, but looks OK from afar. Case looks OK, but the pics are taken to accentuate the edges. Pushers are obviously different. DON is better than many, but not great
As always, depends on price and whether it calls to you.
For me, somewhere just above running, maybe 6.5k or so by The Chart.
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sjg22
·- correct DON bezel (ok condition, not great but we’ve seen much much worse here)
- hands look to be correct and in good condition and pleasantly patinated to my eyes (although we’d need a photo of the reference number inside the case back to be 100% sure)
- case: I see a few dings but it’s an old watch( it looks like it might be sharp but it could be the light so we’d need better photos in more natural light from multiple angles and a photo of the caseback as well.
- correctness of pushers and crown would need reference number to confirm.
- dial..... dial plots have algae coloration, suggesting to me that moisture has been inside the watch. Furthermore, difference in patina colourarion between the hands and plots - although they simply could’ve reacted differently to moisture (or hands were replaced or relumed). Dial seems correct (although we’d need the reference to confirm 100%). Finally, it looks like it has spots (again likely due to moisture incursion. I’d give the dial a “C”.
- movement - it’s a 321. It almost certainly has seen moisture in the case. That said, likely nothing that a $500+ service couldn’t fix...
Overall, not “poor” because all the components are there and most look to be in reasonable-to-pretty-good shape.
I would say “Running+”, although I’d want more case photos.
- hands look to be correct and in good condition and pleasantly patinated to my eyes (although we’d need a photo of the reference number inside the case back to be 100% sure)
- case: I see a few dings but it’s an old watch( it looks like it might be sharp but it could be the light so we’d need better photos in more natural light from multiple angles and a photo of the caseback as well.
- correctness of pushers and crown would need reference number to confirm.
- dial..... dial plots have algae coloration, suggesting to me that moisture has been inside the watch. Furthermore, difference in patina colourarion between the hands and plots - although they simply could’ve reacted differently to moisture (or hands were replaced or relumed). Dial seems correct (although we’d need the reference to confirm 100%). Finally, it looks like it has spots (again likely due to moisture incursion. I’d give the dial a “C”.
- movement - it’s a 321. It almost certainly has seen moisture in the case. That said, likely nothing that a $500+ service couldn’t fix...
Overall, not “poor” because all the components are there and most look to be in reasonable-to-pretty-good shape.
I would say “Running+”, although I’d want more case photos.
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Foo2rama
··Nowhere near as grumpy as he used to be...I want to love this watch... this piece with the right dial $$$$
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BenBagbag
·Look like dealer pics. Fair to assume dealer price? 😉
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Davidt
·I agree with the posts above but would add that the bezel looks dirty around the inner edge, so a clean would improve it significantly.
The dial is the issue for me. Just not attractive.
The dial is the issue for me. Just not attractive.
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RLF13430
·Would like to see more pics, side view and case back.
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Spacefruit
··Prolific Speedmaster HoarderA watch like this has its place. For a price it is a lovely wearable satisfying acquisition.
It is a watch that sounds better on paper:
"Original dial, unserviced, DO90 bezel unpoished 105.012-65 speedmaster."
However the dial is damaged and degraded the plots a miserable colour, the hands look painted, the bezel is fair at best, and the movement will need a service (note the non aligning middle subdial). The case is worn, and there is some engraving on the otherwise good back.
None of this will prevent enjoyment, and if it brings the price down it will be a rewarding watch to own, as all the pieces are correct.
Unfortunately I bet this is a dealer watch who just sees the words, not the watch.
It is a watch that sounds better on paper:
"Original dial, unserviced, DO90 bezel unpoished 105.012-65 speedmaster."
However the dial is damaged and degraded the plots a miserable colour, the hands look painted, the bezel is fair at best, and the movement will need a service (note the non aligning middle subdial). The case is worn, and there is some engraving on the otherwise good back.
None of this will prevent enjoyment, and if it brings the price down it will be a rewarding watch to own, as all the pieces are correct.
Unfortunately I bet this is a dealer watch who just sees the words, not the watch.
