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I would like some advice on what to do

my collection consists of:
3590
3594
3551




I would like to sell the 3551 but I don't know what to replace it with what do you recommend?

keep it
sell it
with what to change it? new Speed whit 3861? FOIS? or other?
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You need a diver
 
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Keep all three. Add a Snoopy or a Tintin or something completely different.
 
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A submariner would elevate your collection to the next level.
 
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Thanks everyone for the answers

before buying the 3594 i sold a planet ocean 42mm 2500coax, the desire of speedmaster was too strong

i have several pmw divers, i would like to change the 3551 with another speedy 😜

but with which one?
tintin and snoopy too expensive for my budget

in my thoughts there is the new 3861, fois, or tokyo 2020 rising sun , but that is over budget

how many of you would exchange a 3551 with a 3861 or a fois?
 
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Thanks everyone for the answers

before buying the 3594 i sold a planet ocean 42mm 2500coax, the desire of speedmaster was too strong

i have several pmw divers, i would like to change the 3551 with another speedy 😜

but with which one?
tintin and snoopy too expensive for my budget

in my thoughts there is the new 3861, fois, or tokyo 2020 rising sun , but that is over budget

how many of you would exchange a 3551 with a 3861 or a fois?

So it seems my initial understanding of your post was correct - you have other watches, and the subset you displayed was your collection of Speedmasters. Given that, I would reiterate that you don't want to sell the 3551. You really want to add another Speedy, but are wanting to offset the cost. The 3551 stands out with that white dial, why have a monotone Speedy collection?

My advice remains. Sell nothing. Be patient, save up a little more, and get whatever one suits your fancy the most. We can't tell you which watch to buy. that's entirely subjective. If I was holding a collection of Speedmasters - your collection specifically, I would not trade the 3551 for a [blank]. I'd just pick up a 3861 or a FOIS. (Personally, I'm not a fan of the Tokyo 2020 watch, but that's just me.)
 
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So it seems my initial understanding of your post was correct - you have other watches, and the subset you displayed was your collection of Speedmasters. Given that, I would reiterate that you don't want to sell the 3551. You really want to add another Speedy, but are wanting to offset the cost. The 3551 stands out with that white dial, why have a monotone Speedy collection?

My advice remains. Sell nothing. Be patient, save up a little more, and get whatever one suits your fancy the most. We can't tell you which watch to buy. that's entirely subjective. If I was holding a collection of Speedmasters - your collection specifically, I would not trade the 3551 for a [blank]. I'd just pick up a 3861 or a FOIS. (Personally, I'm not a fan of the Tokyo 2020 watch, but that's just me.)


you are right!
I like your thinking

as you said, these are the main watches, i have some pmw diver in collection.

I love the 3551 white and blue, maybe I am not fascinated by it because it is automatic?

little is said about the 3551, perhaps little appreciated compared to others

or I have to change my way of seeing the 3551👎
has not yet been appreciated by the market or am I wrong?
 
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you are right!
I like your thinking

as you said, these are the main watches, i have some pmw diver in collection.

I love the 3551 white and blue, maybe I am not fascinated by it because it is automatic?

little is said about the 3551, perhaps little appreciated compared to others

or I have to change my way of seeing the 3551👎
has not yet been appreciated by the market or am I wrong?

If you are concerned with how the 3551, or any of your watches, is appreciated by the market, we're looking at this from completely different perspectives, and I don't know how valid any of my advice is to your situation. I only buy watches because I like them; the history, the movement, the dial, the hands... something about the watch speaks to me. The value the market places on the watch, and the possibility it will increase in value wildly or depreciate like a Nissan LEAF, are not in my criteria. The value and enjoyment that I get out of the watch is. I have watches I really enjoy, like my Soviet Luch "Inteligensia's Dream" or my Navy issued Casio DW-6600, that are basically worthless.

There's nothing inherently wrong about collecting watches as an investment. Like any investing strategy it has risks. Many people are engaged in collecting for this reason and therefore the market value of their investments is important to them as part of the hobby. They might be better suited to address your concern about the valuation of the 3551.
 
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Like others said, get a diver, more specifically a Seamster. There are obviously many options but I am partial to an older discontinued model, the 2254.50. If you prefer a Chrono, check out its Chrono brother, the 2594.52.
 
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If you are concerned with how the 3551, or any of your watches, is appreciated by the market, we're looking at this from completely different perspectives, and I don't know how valid any of my advice is to your situation. I only buy watches because I like them; the history, the movement, the dial, the hands... something about the watch speaks to me. The value the market places on the watch, and the possibility it will increase in value wildly or depreciate like a Nissan LEAF, are not in my criteria. The value and enjoyment that I get out of the watch is. I have watches I really enjoy, like my Soviet Luch "Inteligensia's Dream" or my Navy issued Casio DW-6600, that are basically worthless.

There's nothing inherently wrong about collecting watches as an investment. Like any investing strategy it has risks. Many people are engaged in collecting for this reason and therefore the market value of their investments is important to them as part of the hobby. They might be better suited to address your concern about the valuation of the 3551.
VERY well stated.
 
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The 3594.50 is a watch I owned. Slowly over the years I modded it to look like a real Speedmaster. I traded it to my watchmaker and got the 2254.50 I really wanted but didn't get.
 
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In your case, i would get the Fois. I love it all the way, the case, the dial, the hands, the 1861cal, everything... I also believe it is a a future classic and you can still find it nowadays at a normal cost. But, i would like to keep all the 3 models that you own and avoid selling any of them.

Like you, i wish my collection would be completed only by Speedies! I love them all and i don't care for other divers...
 
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The 3551 Broad Arrow is under appreciated, I like the look on the flat link, it is nicer than the original bracelet. It’s day in the sun will come, try finding a white dial in the Pro case any other way under $10K. Note the white and blue scheme seems popular on the latest Snoopy. The movement not being Lemania based does hold it back from widespread acceptance but once you own one you soon come to appreciate the advantages of auto winding and a date complication. I did anyway on my similar looking coax BA Speedy.

Personally I’d get rid of the Replica model (yes ithe 3594 really is called that by Omega) and keep the 3590 which is a true classic Moonwatch. The Replica always struck me as a bit of a muddle of styles and models and they are prone to hand corrosion too. For a replacement chronograph, the FOIS is a great choice as it is the cheapest entry into straight lug ownership. Your cost to change would be circa $500-1,000, maybe less if you sell the Replica well and it is a tidy full set.

I wouldn’t bother with a 3861 movement Speedy in your circs, you’ll gain very little over the 3590 and the new bracelet isn’t to everyone’s tastes, it’s not to mine and I can’t say I like how they have messed with the dial text. The step dial, spear hand and longer indices are nice touches though I will admit.
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If you are concerned with how the 3551, or any of your watches, is appreciated by the market, we're looking at this from completely different perspectives, and I don't know how valid any of my advice is to your situation. I only buy watches because I like them; the history, the movement, the dial, the hands... something about the watch speaks to me. The value the market places on the watch, and the possibility it will increase in value wildly or depreciate like a Nissan LEAF, are not in my criteria. The value and enjoyment that I get out of the watch is. I have watches I really enjoy, like my Soviet Luch "Inteligensia's Dream" or my Navy issued Casio DW-6600, that are basically worthless.

There's nothing inherently wrong about collecting watches as an investment. Like any investing strategy it has risks. Many people are engaged in collecting for this reason and therefore the market value of their investments is important to them as part of the hobby. They might be better suited to address your concern about the valuation of the 3551.

t is not an investment otherwise I would sell everything and buy a rolex

but I'd like not to lose what I spent to buy them

of the three speedmasters it is the only one that does not fully convince me because it is automatic, and perhaps it is the same reason why it is underestimated by many, is it the same for you?
 
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The 3551 Broad Arrow is under appreciated, I like the look on the flat link, it is nicer than the original bracelet. It’s day in the sun will come, try finding a white dial in the Pro case any other way under $10K. Note the white and blue scheme seems popular on the latest Snoopy. There movement not being Lemania based does hold it back from widespread acceptance but once you own one you soon come to appreciate the advantages of auto wiring and a date complication. I did anyway on my similar looking coax BA Speedy.

Personally I’d get rid of the Replica model (yes ithe 3594 really is called that by Omega) and keep the 3590 which is a true classic Moonwatch. The Replica always struck me as a bit of a muddle of styles and models and they are prone to hand corrosion too. For a replacement chronograph, the FOIS is a great choice as it is the cheapest entry into straight lug ownership. Your cost to change would be circa $500-1,000, maybe less if you sell the Replica well and it is a tidy full set.

I wouldn’t bother with a 3861 movement Speedy in your circs, you’ll gain very little over the 3590 and the new bracelet isn’t to everyone’s tastes, it’s not to mine and I can’t say I like how they have messed with the dial text. The step dial, spear hand and longer indices are nice touches though I will admit.


thanks for the complete answer

I love the replica I think it is one of the most beautiful speedmasters, also little considered today, but I think it will have a good future for collectors and it was only produced for a few years

it is true what you say about 3551, white dial is a rarity on the speedy .. maybe I could replace it with an apollo35th but is extra budget or as mentioned before a rising sun

I would not want to make a mistake though and in 10 years I will regret the sale of the 3551, for how lucky I am it will end up like the manual Daytona that nobody wanted and then ..

perhaps the only truth is not to sell and add another speedy in a few years
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I think the 3551 is not too popular because the movement got a bad rep early on. The issue was fixed in later iterations but who knows if it was fixed in a watch you are looking at as a prospective buyer.

Also, for me personally, the broad arrows can block the subdials too much.

Very good looking watch though