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  1. dsio Ash @ ΩF Staff Member Sep 21, 2012

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    http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/16088680...sid=p4340.l2557&orig_cvip=true#ht_10628wt_899Purchases made through these links may earn this site a commission from the eBay Partner Network

    This one just went very shortly after listing, CK2915-1 according to the caseback with the steel bezel and broad-arrow hands, one bid at $7,000 then the listing was ended so perhaps an offer was made and accepted.

    $7K+ Speedmasters are simply too far above my paygrade with things like relumes being too big an impact on value but I was really curious to see what it ended up going for, guess we may never know... Unless anyone does know? :)

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  2. ulackfocus Sep 21, 2012

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    I would bet one of the big guns grabbed it for around $10K. Might be a heavy hitter from here, might be a Purists member, could possibly be a WUS member too but that's a long shot.

    That's the Speedy I really like. Doubt I'll ever shell out VC / Patek money for one though.
     
  3. dsio Ash @ ΩF Staff Member Sep 21, 2012

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    I'm ashamed to say I'd never seen that speedmaster caseback, with the word written up above before, also didn't know about the hands and dial, it looks almost too good or something, so many of the 2915s look a bit more baked than that, and their water resistance is known to be fairly crap as well.

    That said, the case is so remarkably dent-free as is the bezel
     
  4. MSNWatch Vintage Omega Aficionado Staff Member Sep 21, 2012

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    Everything is wrong about that watch - wrong dial, hands, bezel and movement (number too high for a 2915-1 as those watches have a mid 15 million cal. 321 movement). The caseback actually is one of the very few things that is correct about the watch. Overall though it is an AVOID!
     
  5. dsio Ash @ ΩF Staff Member Sep 21, 2012

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    Yea I kind of got that hit off of it that it was too good to be true for a 2915. It does look like someone did buy it for at least the $7K though as the listing didn't end as "No longer available", but rather as "Item sold"
     
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  6. ulackfocus Sep 21, 2012

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    Wow, thanks Mike! Another good example of why inexperienced buyers shouldn't venture into Speedmasters.
     
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  7. MSNWatch Vintage Omega Aficionado Staff Member Sep 21, 2012

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    I think the real value of an all original all correct 2915-1 in excellent condition is upwards of $50,000.
     
  8. cicindela Steve @ ΩF Staff Member Sep 21, 2012

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    No kidding, I get my 2915-1s confused with my 2915-3s, let alone all the dials, hands, bezels and movements that go with them. On top of that you have the 2915-2s in the mix. My first question would be, "OK Mike, what do we have here?" :D
     
  9. dsio Ash @ ΩF Staff Member Sep 21, 2012

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    Last 2915-1 that went at Christies was this one for $77,000, so $50,000 is probably about on the money for a private sale:

    http://www.christies.com/lotfinder/...9180&sid=ce8e925f-a85e-4b57-a151-cef39c36ea48

    By comparison, the last correct Paul Newman Daytona 6262 went for $74,000:

    http://www.christies.com/lotfinder/...3748&sid=8da8a61f-9a1a-47cd-9382-e34048f198bf

    The 2915-1 wasn't an Omegamania sale either, it was in 2010 in Geneva

    They're definitely a rare duck, probably why someone took a punt on this one at the $7k.
     
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  10. MSNWatch Vintage Omega Aficionado Staff Member Sep 21, 2012

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    I think case is correct but that's about it. Bezel is from a modern re-issue of the broad arrow speedmaster. Dial looks like either an aged modern version. Who knows where the hands came from. Movement is aged and probably came from a non-speedmaster chronograph.
     
  11. MSNWatch Vintage Omega Aficionado Staff Member Sep 21, 2012

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    To the right collector, the case alone may be worth $7k - if you had the right bits but a crappy case, putting it in this one could make a $10-20k difference in the value of your watch.
     
  12. dsio Ash @ ΩF Staff Member Sep 21, 2012

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    Damn... that much? Is there anything physically different between the 2915 case and the 2998 case though? Just thinking since the serial is on the movement and the reference is on the caseback, is the case itself a shared part between the smaller size no crown guard Speedmasters from that era
     
  13. Dash1 Sep 21, 2012

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    I think I've seen this same one go round ebay a couple of times! Wrong, wrong, wrong! Still the case is okay and probably worth that money alone, as has been said. Although maybe the case is mocked up too as the Omega symbol is missing from under the seahorse.
    I'm told a nice original 2915-2 changed hands for close to £50,000 stirling recently (!) I guess original examples of these are just so rare.
     
  14. MSNWatch Vintage Omega Aficionado Staff Member Sep 21, 2012

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    Good question - there are probably tiny differences in the case but the caseback from a 2915 should fit a 2998. So essentially in this case you are buying it for the caseback primarily since the other main part, the bezel, is wrong.
     
  15. MSNWatch Vintage Omega Aficionado Staff Member Sep 22, 2012

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  16. dsio Ash @ ΩF Staff Member Sep 22, 2012

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  17. cicindela Steve @ ΩF Staff Member Sep 22, 2012

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    Last would-be purchaser must have thought he was buying for $700.00 dollars :D
     
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  19. MSNWatch Vintage Omega Aficionado Staff Member Sep 22, 2012

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    You snooze you loose! :p
     
  20. dsio Ash @ ΩF Staff Member Sep 29, 2012

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    Just looking at a pile of Speedmaster 2915 casebacks and the one above on this item, and I can't find any that look the same, three things were that the engraving of Speedmaster on the edge of the 2915s I can find pictures of have a lot more depth and width in the engraving of the word, with the A in particular having a much smaller space between its arch and cross line, and thicker engraved lines, they all seem to have the Omega symbol under the horse engraving as well, and in terms of the actual horse itself, its not just that this one is sharper than any other example I can find pictures of, its a different horse with different lines to it.

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