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Civillian Seamaster 300 big triangle 165.024 - no date window

  1. mozambique Jul 25, 2016

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    Do these exist?
    I thought only the military versions were non-date?

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  2. watchlovr Jul 25, 2016

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    Of course they exist.
    They are just getting hard to find, I think all the good ones are in collections by now.
    The one you post looks great, possibly luminova hands though.
     
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  3. mozambique Jul 25, 2016

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    Thanks for the reply - you are 100% confident in your reply? I only ask based on the quoted text below - see last sentence in bold.

    In addition to outfitting professional civilians, Omega outfitted British naval and terrestrial forces through its official agent, Omega Watch Co. England. But take note: 166.024s, like this one, were the only civilian Seamaster 300s available with the ‘Big Triangle’ dial (featuring a large triangle marker at 12 o’clock; it was also available with the standard Arabic numeral indicator at 12). These are not to be confused with the British military ‘Big Triangles’, which were specially designed to meet British Ministry of Defense specifications. Unlike civilian ‘Big Triangles’, these watches were a non-date caliber with special engravings on the case back and fixed bars at the lugs. In today’s vintage market, authentic civilian ‘Big Triangle’ non-date SM300s do not exist.

    http://www.christies.com/features/Omega-Seamaster-300-1966-Deconstructed-5897-1.aspx
     
  4. Nactex Jul 25, 2016

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    You can not believe everything you read on the internet.
     
  5. mozambique Jul 25, 2016

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    Yes, I realise that, but other than that, the article seems quite authorititive, hence my question
     
  6. mozambique Jul 25, 2016

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    Although having said that, it is an auction house (albeit Christies), and there have been instances where their in-house expertise seems lacking at times re. Omega's
     
  7. Nactex Jul 25, 2016

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    Also, they are selling a 166.024 BT and want you to believe it is very rare and deserves a huge price. They are in the business of selling and this is marketing.
     
  8. gemini4 Hoarder Of Speed et alia Jul 25, 2016

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    That Christie's article has been questioned numerous times. I think the issue is that the author's statement

    In today’s vintage market, authentic civilian ‘Big Triangle’ non-date SM300s do not exist

    was rightfully misunderstood and actually means that there were none for sale at the time of the writing. They do exist but are hard to find.
     
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  9. mozambique Jul 25, 2016

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    Ahhh........thanks for the clarification guys. Yes, strangely worded sentence indeed.
     
  10. Nactex Jul 25, 2016

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  11. mozambique Jul 25, 2016

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    ain't that the truth.............
     
  12. TNTwatch Jul 25, 2016

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    If you had searched for the same question, you'd have gotten the same answer all over.

    If still in doubt, here's the '67 civilian catalogue:

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  13. TNTwatch Jul 25, 2016

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    I think it was you who misunderstood, if you read carefully the quoted paragraph again. They claimed the civilian BT only existed with date. Not the only time, nor the highest value, they've claimed non-truths.
     
  14. robocaspar Jul 25, 2016

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    Nevermind!
     
  15. mozambique Jul 25, 2016

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    Ha! It's just a bloody odd statement all round. "in todays vintage market......................" So in yesterdays vintage market civilian BT's with no date did exist? Who proof reads their bloody blurb for accuracy?? Given the $$ of some of the stuff they hawk, you would think they might do a better job at times.
     
  16. mozambique Jul 25, 2016

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    As ever, I put my faith 100% in OF's in-house experts! :)
     
  17. BlackTalon This Space for Rent Jul 25, 2016

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    I am pretty sure the job of the writers is to generate as much excitement -- and therefore the highest bidding -- as possible. Their quote could well have been accurate at the very moment they wrote it. And a day later there could have been 5 of them available "in the vintage market"
     
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  18. gemini4 Hoarder Of Speed et alia Jul 25, 2016

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    I'm not so sure @TNTwatch. One of the foremost of all OF Big Triangle experts happens to agree with me:

    They actually have a qualifier "In today’s vintage market" which could be interpreted as none on sale at the moment.

    https://omegaforums.net/threads/seamaster-big-triangle-no-date-question.30179/#post-338586
    ::psy::::psy::::psy::
     
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  19. TNTwatch Jul 25, 2016

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    Aha, that's the second half of their double speak, while the first half - which is all the paragraph quoted by the OP of this thread before that last sentence - is aimed to mislead...;)
     
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  20. micampe Jul 25, 2016

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    I knew that one wouldn't go unnoticed.