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Chatting with Ai about Misprinted Seamaster 300 Case Backs

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I had a conversation with Ai about Misprinted Case Backs on the 300, I asked Ai whether it knew anything about this anomaly and it replies it did.
I was informed by the Ai Assistant it knew quite a bit and with a supplied picture could evaluate whether this was in-fact a Speedmaster case back .
I uploaded this photo, this was the following reply.
Ai just knocked me out of the park, to know this after all these years. I'm gutted.
 
Vinz Clortho
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Sorry to hear about the case back news. How long have you had the watch?
 
Caliber561
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Trusting an AI to make qualitative judgements is perhaps not the best move. They're quite a mixed bag at this stage of their development... I wouldn't be in a rush to sell that watch at a markdown due to the caseback. If I remember correctly, there's likely a forum thread on here or two explaining why.
 
masteroftime
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Why would you trust AI to answer this sort of question?

Anyway…happy to buy your fake watch for parts!
 
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Caliber561 Caliber561
Trusting an AI to make qualitative judgements is perhaps not the best move. They're quite a mixed bag at this stage of their development... I wouldn't be in a rush to sell that watch at a markdown due to the caseback. If I remember correctly, there's likely a forum thread
Have you tried having the same conversation with AI using different photos of other watches and see how accurate it might/might not be?
 
Foo2rama
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Using AI for something like this....
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amuscare87
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Dollars to donuts if you pushed back on that response telling the AI you knew it was real and had it checked by omega directly, the AI would have backpedaled, apologized, and told you that you were right.
 
brinsmead
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Thanks Guys, I know its ok, I suppose it doesn't matter in a way whether Ai is right or wrong, it just adds another layer of confusion when the watch leaves your possession. Especially if they use it as a guide.
 
JimInOz
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I would believe what Omega Heritage told you in 2023 before I'd believe any AI slop.
Should the watch leave your possession you have the documents from Omega to justify the caseback.

Nice watch, and although it isn't absolutely IAW the original specifications, I would be happy to own it.
 
brinsmead
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Thanks Jim point taken.

On another note some years ago, we discussed the Misprinted backs, did we ever get to the bottom
of why these were fitted up to Seamaster 300 over such a wide time frame, in this picture I pulled up some years ago it had a build of 67 with a 552 and mine was 69 with 565 thats a couple of years.
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Delta Romeo
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AI taps into every 0 or 1 bits of data out there on the interwebs, including everything on OF.

Curse or blessing?
 
Dan S
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LLMs are getting pretty good at some things ... vintage watches are not one of those things, unfortunately. We are seeing it with almost every new member.
 
lenndon
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It probably won't be too long before there is a reliable model for that kind of thing, but right now it just doesn't work properly.
I can also understand the skepticism toward AI, especially among older generations, but it would be nice if we focused more on how to make something truly useful out of it instead of just bashing it. The opportunities for watch identification and authentication are definitely there and I am looking forward to it working in the future.
 
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lenndon lenndon
it would be nice if we focused more on how to make something truly useful out of it
Like getting it to eat the Bestfit catalog?

The last weekend, I was able to use giggle AI (AI lite?) to help me learn more about quartz motors. The information was already there, it just summarized it in small easy to digest chunks.

Sometimes though it seems like a lobster in a pot of water. Where the temperature rises slowly. Somewhat comfortable at first ...
 
hen
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AI taps into every 0 or 1 bits of data out there on the interwebs, including everything on OF.

Curse or blessing?
Let¨s do the obvious and ask Ai:

Whether AI data scraping is a curse or a blessing depends on your perspective, but it is fundamentally transforming both the digital landscape and the adult creator economy.

Yeah right! Trust is earned, Priests, politicians and Ai dont have my trust.
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p4ul
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Better to trust in OFAI.

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lenndon lenndon
It probably won't be too long before there is a reliable model for that kind of thing, but right now it just doesn't work properly.
I can also understand the skepticism toward AI, especially among older generations, but it would be nice if we focused more on how to make something truly useful out of it instead of just bashing it. The opportunities for watch identification and authentication are definitely there and I am looking forward to it working in the future.
It’s not about bashing AI.

The problem is that it’s is just a bunch of programs scraping information from the net.

They don’t know what they are looking at, so don’t know if the information is correct or incorrect.

Therefore it is currently entirely unreliable - demonstrated by numerous new members posting gobbledygook. (That they have taken for gospel - because AI told them!)

I don’t know how you resolve the problem - oh, except perhaps by having a knowledgeable human fact check the garbage.
 
hen
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I think this came from the joke tread, so sorry for repost, but it fits in nicely here.
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Archer
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hen hen
I think this came from the joke tread, so sorry for repost, but it fits in nicely here.
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There are real world consequences for relying too much on AI, and vintage watches are the least of our worries. People are being falsely arrested in the US for crimes they did not commit because cops are using AI facial recognition to generate arrest warrants. People have been in jail for months - losing their jobs, homes, having children taken away - all because some cop got an 85% match on AI facial recognition and failed to check basic facts, like the guy they arrested was 400 miles away and at work at the time of the crime.

But hey you can make cool images and videos with it right, so what's the harm...
 
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