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·Yes. They did. Where have you been?
Can The 2021 Omega Speedmaster Moonwatch Professional Still Be Considered A Moonwatch?
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·I'm not your research assistant, Sparky - go find it yourself...
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Bizcut1
·Yes, thank you. You as well.
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Gruesome
·I think even my co-axial chrono is a genuine Moonwatch according to Omega:
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Bizcut1
·It is. Yes.
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gbesq
·If it’s a three register Speedmaster chronograph AND it’s qualified by NASA for manned space flight and EVA, then it’s a Moonwatch. Otherwise, it isn’t.
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blubarb
··I might rise, but I refuse to shine.If it’s a three register Speedmaster chronograph AND it’s qualified by NASA for manned space flight and EVA, then it’s a Moonwatch. Otherwise, it isn’t.
Yes and no. I guess it's how strict (pedantic you want to go while in the rabbit hole). Arguably it makes sense that if a watch is NASA qualified for manned flight and EVA then in the strictest sense it should be called a NASA approved Space Watch, and in the broadest sense (and I guess marketing sense) then it's also a moonwatch. However, turn your mind to the Bulova 96B258 and ask is the re-issue a moonwatch - I mean it was worn on the moon by D. Scott, but I don't believe it was a NASA qualified prototype. Bulova has no qualms about referring to it as a lunar Pilot (a better nomenclature in my opinion, but that's another story).
"Strictly speaking, the Speedmasters that were worn on the moon were references 105.003, 105.012, and 145.012. These watches were equipped with the iconic caliber 321 chronograph movement, and hold a number of differences to the most modern reference of today. So, when interpreting this question in the strictest possible sense, it would be only those three references that could be considered true Moonwatches. However, a broader understanding allows for some wiggle room for where we can apply the term."
You have to draw a line in the sand somewhere. So it's either the references 105.003, 105.012, and 145.012 only that own the title or @gbesq's view which I think is arguably the more fair and more palatable assessment of determining the status of "moonwatch".
I guess this leads to a tunnel in the rabbit warren: is the new Ed White worthy of more credibility as a moonwatch, more so than than any 861, 1861, co-axial, etc., moonwatch? 😁👎😗
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ckhaing
·my trusted omega sales associate said it is moon watch
omega usa website said it is moon watch
so it must be a moon watch
😵💫😜😁🙄
omega usa website said it is moon watch
so it must be a moon watch
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Bob Neville
·Actually, the website says, "...it has been popularly known as the Moonwatch". Those a wiggle words to my ear.
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blubarb
··I might rise, but I refuse to shine.
It does, just as it says this:
One doesn't seem to negate the other though. It's all puff.
I guess for the majority, if it looks like a Moonwatch and ticks like a Moonwatch then it's a Moonwatch.
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Pun
·If we compared the writing at the back of cal 1861 and 3861 Moonwatch, Omega had already clarified, which one qualified as a Moonwatch.
There is nothing to discuss further IMO. Enjoy your Moonwatch. They all are great pieces in their own way indeed. Regards
There is nothing to discuss further IMO. Enjoy your Moonwatch. They all are great pieces in their own way indeed. Regards
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Duckie
·Actually, the website says, "...it has been popularly known as the Moonwatch". Those a wiggle words to my ear.
Yep, there's plenty of wiggle room there.
Even Omega themselves are using the word "popular".
Let's take a look at it again.
Only watches with 321 movements have ever been on the moon and a single example with the 861 orbited the moon as part of an experiment conducted by NASA.
I think watches with 1861's are approved for EVAs and have logged more hours in space on EVAs than anything else, so theoretically they could be strapped to the wrists of those who will go to the moon and actually land the next time it happens.
As far as these new 3861 watches go, they're potentially just as capable or even more so as anything that has proceeded them.
So why not label them as "Moon watches"👍
Just as long as they don't have date complications👎
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Omegafanman
·D DuckieYep, there's plenty of wiggle room there.
Even Omega themselves are using the word "popular".
Let's take a look at it again.
Only watches with 321 movements have ever been on the moon and a single example with the 861 orbited the moon as part of an experiment conducted by NASA.
I think watches with 1861's are approved for EVAs and have logged more hours in space on EVAs than anything else, so theoretically they could be strapped to the wrists of those who will go to the moon and actually land the next time it happens.
As far as these new 3861 watches go, they're potentially just as capable or even more so as anything that has proceeded them.
So why not label them as "Moon watches"👍
Just as long as they don't have date complications👎
If it waddles like a duck, swims like a duck, has feathers, a beak and webbed feet and quacks like a duck, and hangs around with ducks...... and goes into space... ... it is probably a duck....so Moonwatch it is then ;0)
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ckhaing
·"...it has been
It is a carefully chosen grammar to create ambiguity by the website creator to implicate may or may no longer be the moon watch.
By definition, present perfect tense refers to an action or state that either occurred at an indefinite time in the past or began in the past and continued to the present time.
Anyway, I guess everybody can agree that as of today September 30, 2021, the new 3861 is de facto the "Last Omega in Space" - LOiS.
So we got "FOiS" and "LOiS"?
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blubarb
··I might rise, but I refuse to shine.It is a carefully chosen grammar to create ambiguity by the website creator to implicate may or may no longer be the moon watch.
By definition, present perfect tense refers to an action or state that either occurred at an indefinite time in the past or began in the past and continued to the present time.
Anyway, I guess everybody can agree that as of today September 30, 2021, the new 3861 is de facto the "Last Omega in Space" - LOiS.
So we got "FOiS" and "LOiS"?
And the new Ed White 321?
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