Calling all Pocket Watch Buffs

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Private label 18s Hamilton grade 924, circa 1905.
J Boss case

T.G. Dillon & Son Wheeling, West Virginia

Top quality timekeeper if you did not require a RR grade/approved pw back in the day.

 
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Time to inject a bit of activity to our thread. No activity for 5 days. The 2026 version of the Calgary ModelRailroad Society Supertrain show. Pictures of our exhibit.

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VERY handsome display of Historic RR items. Great organization and extremely educational.
 
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Hey Doug 👋


May I ask you, what is this one? 😲😲

 
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Hey Doug 👋


May I ask you, what is this one? 😲😲

What can I tell you about the watch under the lens, aside from what is on the descriptive sign just in front of it? If you have specific questions other than found in the description, just ask. The magnifier (clearly) is not a watch. The watch is engraved with the Canadian Pacific Railway logo.
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What can I tell you about the watch under the lens, aside from what is on the descriptive sign just in front of it? If you have specific questions other than found in the description, just ask. The magnifier (clearly) is not a watch. The watch is engraved with the Canadian Pacific Railway logo.
All I can make out in the photo is "Waltham." Could you tell us what the sign says?
 
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All I can make out in the photo is "Waltham." Could you tell us what the sign says?
The card says: Waltham, 1883 model, 18-size, 17-jewels, movement engraved with C P R logo. The serial number I could find out if you really have to know. This is not the same watch, but this is what it looks like.

 
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What can I tell you about the watch under the lens, aside from what is on the descriptive sign just in front of it? If you have specific questions other than found in the description, just ask. The magnifier (clearly) is not a watch. The watch is engraved with the Canadian Pacific Railway logo.
Oh my God... I thought that the magnifier was instead some strange item/ Compass or rare American Watch 😏


Never mind. Thanks in any case for the reply 👍👍
 
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The card says: Waltham, 1883 model, 18-size, 17-jewels, movement engraved with C P R logo. The serial number I could find out if you really have to know. This is not the same watch, but this is what it looks like.

Thank you. I always like the CPR engraved watches.
 
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Thank you. I always like the CPR engraved watches.
In that display, we had Canadian Private Label watches. There were 5 Walthams with the CPR logo, 4 Walthams with the Canadian Railway Time Sevice logo, several Walthams with Canadian jeweller names on the dial, several Hamiltons with Canadian jeweller names on the dials, and one Swiss Brandt CCR (Omega) with a Canadian jeweller names on the dial. This is an 1892 model Waltham with the CPR logo.

 
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Thank you. I always like the CPR engraved watches.

Yes, that shield is well executed and the frosted surface inside the shield is appealing.
 
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I just received this from my father. It belonged to my great grandfather. No idea about the history of it but would love to get it restored. Does anyone here know any good pocket watch watchmakers in the uk the would recommend. It’s looking a bit sorry for itself and yes that’s sellotape over the seconds hands and seconds dial.

 
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During our recent participation in the Calgary Model Railroad Society Supertrain event, we exhibited approximately 120 railroad standard pocket and wrist watches, and three Seth Thomas World standard wall clocks. Of the pocket watches, there were approximately 6 that surprised us. These six were the only ones that were not running. One of the six was my Keystone Howard series 5 model. So today, I looked after that. I cleaned it. This one is 16-size, 19-jewels, and from circa 118 years ago. I’ll be wearing it on my @DaveK mystery braid lanyard for a few days, just to test it. I have two of these, and I rather like them. Railroad approved in Canada and the U S.

 
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:: Good advice and thank you for bringing up the grading system - wasn't aware of that.
:: And yes, the pricing appears to be all over the place

A short update: the black dialed Omega slipped away. But this was really me not being decisive enough. I want to thank @bobertdob for a wonderful post regarding Regina connection. Thank You also for everyone chiming in there!

That out of the way, some early remarks from a newcomer looking at pocket watches. With the wrist watches I'd like to think they're something I wear/use, even if rarely, and somehow owning (hoarding?) them for me builds around that. Allure of owning pocket watches feels different.

Having read (much) more about the pocket watches has been truly eye opening. So many things I wasn't aware of, had ignored, or at best had a hazy understanding of (and I mean supposedly 'obvious' thing like railroad watches, the Kipton, Ohio train wreck in 1891, the standardisation that followed, how Waltham and other American watchmakers pioneered and dominated the system of interchangeable-part, machine-made watch production, how for example Omega, and Zenith embraced this,...). Yet, I've barely scratched the surface here.

There are quite a few high quality resources available for pocket watch collecting when one bothers to look. Shoutout to NAWCC[2] 'beginners' guide - although I am going to ignore the very first advice it gives (to study for 6 months before buying...).

I am in awe of information found in pocketwatchdatabase[1]. Especially for the American brands that I've been now looking at, the detail and records available are incredible compared to what I'm used to with the wrist watches. Unfortunately for non-US brands the information appears to be a bit more incomplete. Wish there was a similar db to search for wrist watches of all brands.

Then the movements; just from the beauty perspective Waltham and others absolutely nailed it with the way they've decorated the movements. I cannot wait to get one of those under the loupe.

Grading systems for pocket watches: I didn't even know there was such a thing couple of weeks back. Now the systems appear simply confusing and other than approved for RR use in particular country, every manufacturer appears to have their own grades and definitions and I am possibly more lost than when I didn't even realise being lost! 😀 But let's see, maybe I can walk myself out of this labyrinth.

I am now approaching this a bit more methodically. I've set a budget and I'm in a process of obtaining a 'starter kit' of 6 to 10 pocket watches (max 2000EUR total, 2-6 months, must be 100 years or older, emphasise different styles and manufacturers, major brands only, private sellers only, rules maybe stretched, but no more than by 20%).

The first one I got is/was 6s size 15 jewel Elgin (grade 67) from 1890s in a hunter case. It's in the mail now.

Before this gets too long and rambly, I'll just end with: "A good traveler has no fixed plans, and is not intent on arriving".

[1] https://pocketwatchdatabase.com/
[2] https://mb.nawcc.org/wiki/Encyclopedia-Subjects/American-Pocket-Watches/Beginning-Watch-Collecting
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