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·Possibly
Better pictures or a in hand report would be definitive. Or both.
Better pictures or a in hand report would be definitive. Or both.
Calling all Pocket Watch Buffs
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Duracuir1
··Never Used A Kodak
Will report back on this. I know the auctioneer personally. He replied to my text immediately and will send me better pics the next time he is at his compound.
Here is the Smiths, hanging « A la Alpha » between the mantel and the window, visible from the wing chair. That’s my maternal grandfather’s fishing rod underneath
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DrmexicoII
·That's a lovely Smiths. Love the hands.
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DaveK
·Will report back on this. I know the auctioneer personally. He replied to my text immediately and will send me better pics the next time he is at his compound.
Here is the Smiths, hanging « A la Alpha » between the mantel and the window, visible from the wing chair. That’s my maternal grandfather’s fishing rod underneathInteresting to see the Smiths trembling a teeny bit from the engine within.
For added elegance, you can make some of these baby straps for hanging watches. I bought some tiny grommets to make the holes more finished looking, but apparently haven’t gotten around to adding them yet. These little extenders are also used to attach a watch to a chain, for those that are concerned about a chain perhaps scratching their watch
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·My only Smiths, WWII era
Broken pallet fork, been in dry dock awaiting a seemingly uncommon part and/or reasonable cost donor for many years.
Is it a particularly unusual Smiths?
Can you show us the inside.
I have avoided them like the plague as all the ones I have seen are akin to dollar watches, cheap basic movements
They are as common as chewing gum on the pavement here ( In PW terms).
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Duracuir1
··Never Used A Kodak
Is it a particularly unusual Smiths?
Can you show us the inside.
I have avoided them like the plague as all the ones I have seen are akin to dollar watches, cheap basic movements
They are as common as chewing gum on the pavement here ( In PW terms).
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Duracuir1
··Never Used A KodakPics from Canuck who is giving the Illinois a full service…
Before…
Crystal was plastic. Having a real one installed.
And a couple pics (above) of the watch back together again. Under observation until early next week.
Now I am like I was as a kid, looking at the pictures in the Sears catalogue weeks before Christmas. (We lived in small villages in New Brunswick. Sears was basically a counter and my parents ordered what they chose from the catalogue).
Thanks for servicing this watch Canuck, it is even more special now with your touch.
Before…
And a couple pics (above) of the watch back together again. Under observation until early next week.
Now I am like I was as a kid, looking at the pictures in the Sears catalogue weeks before Christmas. (We lived in small villages in New Brunswick. Sears was basically a counter and my parents ordered what they chose from the catalogue).
Thanks for servicing this watch Canuck, it is even more special now with your touch.
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·Pics from Canuck who is giving the Illinois a full service…
Before…Crystal was plastic. Having a real one installed.
And a couple pics (above) of the watch back together again. Under observation until early next week.
Now I am like I was as a kid, looking at the pictures in the Sears catalogue weeks before Christmas. (We lived in small villages in New Brunswick. Sears was basically a counter and my parents ordered what they chose from the catalogue).
Thanks for servicing this watch Canuck, it is even more special now with your touch.
That’s a really nice piece, Illinois did some amazing dials. Here’s a closeup of my Illinois Sterling from 1926
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Canuck
·The only watch I have that rivals the two Illinois pocket watches posted by @DaveK and @Duracuir1 is my Elgin “opera” watch from about 95 years ago. This watch has a 6/0 size Elgin wrist watch movement in a 14-karat white gold case. (Aside: This watch is from my wife’s family. A female ”shirt tail” (remote) relative’s husband passed away. The watch was to be buried with him. The mortuary removed it from his pocket after the funeral. After he was buried, the mortuary returned it to the widow! She was furious!)
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·The only watch I have that rivals the two Illinois pocket watches posted by @DaveK and @Duracuir1 is my Elgin “opera” watch from about 95 years ago. This watch has a 6/0 size Elgin wrist watch movement in a 14-karat white gold case. (Aside: This watch is from my wife’s family. A female ”shirt tail” (remote) relative’s husband passed away. The watch was to be buried with him. The mortuary removed it from his pocket after the funeral. After he was buried, the mortuary returned it to the widow! She was furious!)
That’s a great story with that watch. I wonder how many people at the Illinois factory were able to do that engraving work. I watched a video about Nomos’ factory and they talked about how only two staff were trained to decorate certain parts of the movement
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·That’s a great story with that watch. I wonder how many people at the Illinois factory were able to do that engraving work. I watched a video about Nomos’ factory and they talked about how only two staff were trained to decorate certain parts of the movement
The decoration shown on your Illinois Sterling, and my opera watch was done by machine, not by hand. Probably the original die was made on a rose engine, the die being used the stamp the parts. Decorations on watch movements were often likewise, stamped by a die, finished by either a hand engraver (on top of the line watches), or by a pantograph which could engrave numerous watches simultaneously.
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·Well, comparison with a "dollar watch" is quite unfair. Do dallar watches have jewels up to the third wheel? This one will have 15 jewels in total.
One immediately recognises a Smiths movement by the two screws for the balance cock and the general setup. Here is a Smiths DeLuxe wrist watch movement, compare. The pocket watch movement is imo only let down a bit due to the plain balance wheel. I would expect that working on the pocket watch movement will be just as easy as in case of the wrist watch movements.
One immediately recognises a Smiths movement by the two screws for the balance cock and the general setup. Here is a Smiths DeLuxe wrist watch movement, compare. The pocket watch movement is imo only let down a bit due to the plain balance wheel. I would expect that working on the pocket watch movement will be just as easy as in case of the wrist watch movements.
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Fallout Boy
·May I ask here: can anyone tell me more
about these tools? watchmaker? for pocket-watches? gold-smith? merci!
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Canuck
·Tool one, likely for drawing round of flat wire, for a goldsmith. Tool two is a hole punch. The post with the screw is used for punching a new mainspring hook inside a mainspring barrel, I believe. I have a very similar tool which is quite handy. Mine can be used to punch round holes of several sizes, and one punch with punch a rectangular hole.
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Fallout Boy
·great forum 😀
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·yes, basic
That is quite nice, first one I have seen with that many jewels.
All of the ones I have seen are 7 at best ( more like 0 visible jewels ) and more basic.
As Bernhard has pointed out with the WW comparison, just a larger version of a nice Smiths Deluxe!
Must keep an eye out for a similar one.
** EDIT** Damnit, now you've got me scouring online auctions for Smiths PW's !! grrrr. 😀
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·Well, comparison with a "dollar watch" is quite unfair. Do dallar watches have jewels up to the third wheel? This one will have 15 jewels in total.
One immediately recognises a Smiths movement by the two screws for the balance cock and the general setup. Here is a Smiths DeLuxe wrist watch movement, compare. The pocket watch movement is imo only let down a bit due to the plain balance wheel. I would expect that working on the pocket watch movement will be just as easy as in case of the wrist watch movements.
Yeah those balance wheels don't leave a good impression, I have a few Smiths Oven timers, the balance wheels look the same 🙁 but they are good reliable runners and even I can service them with out mucking them up!
These are mostly what I see when it comes to Smiths PW's but now with TexOmegas example I have something to look for that will match my Smiths Deluxe.
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