Calling all Pocket Watch Buffs

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Hanging around today 😀

 
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My paternal grandfather's middle name was McKinley.....he was born in 1896 and named after the new President.


Seek thoroughly, for total production in my configuration (16ONL 21j adj 5 position) was 3900.
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3 loiterers on my nightstand- 3 iconic railroad watches. Waltham Vanguard (1940) Hamilton Railway Special 992B (1946) , and Illinois Bunn Special (1927). Vanguard is most accurate but all 3 outperform most of my vintage wristwatches (not counting Grand Seiko).
 
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You’ve been hiding these from us! As to the Hamilton, by 1946, Hamilton was only a short time away from retiring vitreous enamel dials (like yours), and using melamine dials. I really prefer the enamel dial. Particularly pristine double sunk ones like the Hamilton and Illinois. Welcome!
 
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You’ve been hiding these from us! As to the Hamilton, by 1946, Hamilton was only a short time away from retiring vitreous enamel dials (like yours), and using melamine dials. I really prefer the enamel dial. Particularly pristine double sunk ones like the Hamilton and Illinois. Welcome!
Thanks. I’ve got lots more will get them out this was my pre- vintage wristwatch era. I’ve always wondered why the vintage wristwatches were not enamel it’s amazing how much better the enamel dials of pocket watches held up.
 
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Thanks. I’ve got lots more will get them out this was my pre- vintage wristwatch era. I’ve always wondered why the vintage wristwatches were not enamel it’s amazing how much better the enamel dials of pocket watches held up.

At one time, (turn of the 20th century), a lot of wrist watches had enamel dials, I have a 1915 Rolex with enamel dial, and a late 20s Longines, likewise. The enamel isn’t prone to oxidization and water damage like the dials on the majority of wrist watches. But the enamel dial doesn’t like to be smacked around! If you’re careful with them, they don’t change.
 
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Outside in overcast sky

that’s a beauty! They’ve actually recreated his signature

 
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3 loiterers on my nightstand- 3 iconic railroad watches. Waltham Vanguard (1940) Hamilton Railway Special 992B (1946) , and Illinois Bunn Special (1927). Vanguard is most accurate but all 3 outperform most of my vintage wristwatches (not counting Grand Seiko).

Nice, what’s the serial # on that 992b?
 
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Elgin in service today 😀

 
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2 questions and a bump from page 4.

Question 1)

I have these hooks and am thinking of using them like @Alpha does. Can the bow of the watch support that weight for extended periods? I hope so because I like that look.

Question 2). Your thoughts on this very plain Waltham. If it’s a decent watch I will get an in-person look before I bid. Seems to be a small line in the 31st minute.
 
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Will the bow support the weight of the watch? Depends! Over the century that the Waltham has exited, the inner tips of the bow have worn down, while the sockets on the pendant have worn. The result is (likely) a loose, wobbly bow! Before you suspend the watch from a hook, grasp it and give it a good tug. If it withstands that, it should support the watch! You have lots of tools! Deploy your bow pliers (see image). Take the bow off the pendant, shrink it, and fit it to the case again.

 
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On that Waltham, is there a chip directly where the seconds hand points?
 
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On that Waltham, is there a chip directly where the seconds hand points?
Thanks! Good eye! Will let it go.
 
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Might be a good carry watch if price reflects dial damage.

However, if you’re planning to display with those hooks, you might be explaining THAT “feature ”rather than the other 99.9%.
 
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2 questions and a bump from page 4.

Question 1)

I have these hooks and am thinking of using them like @Alpha does. Can the bow of the watch support that weight for extended periods? I hope so because I like that look.

Question 2). Your thoughts on this very plain Waltham. If it’s a decent watch I will get an in-person look before I bid. Seems to be a small line in the 31st minute.

Provided the price was right I would not let that one pass, even with a small dial chip.

Seems a little odd that the PWDB doesn't say RR grade.
 
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Provided the price was right I would not let that one pass, even with a small dial chip.

Seems a little odd that the PWDB doesn't say RR grade.

I have a virtually identical Waltham Crescent Street, s# 20002589 in my collection. In the pocketwatchdatabase site, it also is not listed as railroad approved. Yet mine served in the bib overalls of a CPR guy from 1917 until he retired as a locomotive engineer in 1962! While neither of these watches are listed as “railroad approved”, in the PWDB listings, they have every feature that would be necessary to be railroad approved. And the Waltham Crescent Street grade is listed as railroad approved, elsewhere.

As to passing this one by because it isn’t “perfect”? I like the double-sunk, vitreous enamel, “Canadian” 24-hour dial, in spite of a hairline near the 6. Watches such as these often have half a million miles on them. They weren’t safe queens, owned by a collector, never to see the light of day. They were “tool watches”, (to use the modern vernacular). I like it! I’d buy it in a heartbeat (if the price was right).
 
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I have a virtually identical Waltham Crescent Street, s# 20002589 in my collection. In the pocketwatchdatabase site, it also is not listed as railroad approved. Yet mine served in the bib overalls of a CPR guy from 1917 until he retired as a locomotive engineer in 1962! While neither of these watches are listed as “railroad approved”, in the PWDB listings, they have every feature that would be necessary to be railroad approved. And the Waltham Crescent Street grade is listed as railroad approved, elsewhere.

As to passing this one by because it isn’t “perfect”? I like the double-sunk, vitreous enamel, “Canadian” 24-hour dial, in spite of a hairline near the 6. Watches such as these often have half a million miles on them. They weren’t safe queens, owned by a collector, never to see the light of day. They were “tool watches”, (to use the modern vernacular). I like it! I’d buy it in a heartbeat (if the price was right).

Yes all the specs point to RR including dial and hands, I have noticed quite a few omissions in the past on the PWDB.
I would have that one in an instant provided the price was right.
I think what particularly adds to it is the workman's watch aspect with a case made for daily use IE a tool not an ornament.