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·May 2, 2021

Hi all,
I believe this Pan Am looks good but wondering if there’s any Gruen heads out there that could confirm for me.
Thanks so much!

 

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Tony C.

·May 2, 2021·Ωf Jury member

I'm not an expert, but do own several Pan Ams, and that looks correct, with the possible exception of the crown.

Edited: May 2, 2021

 

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Tony C.

I'm not an expert, but do own several Pan Ams, and that looks correct, with the possible exception of the crown.

You own several!? Oh cool
Ok thanks a lot
I’ll look into the crown situation

 

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Tony C.

·May 2, 2021·Ωf Jury member

If you have more photos, I could form a more confident opinion.

 

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X350 XJR

·May 2, 2021·Vintage Omega Aficionado

IIRC that would be a Pan American "Ace".

 

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·May 2, 2021

Tony C.

If you have more photos, I could form a more confident opinion.

I’ll try to get some, thanks!

 

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IIRC that would be a Pan American "Ace".

That’s what this model is known as? Ace

 

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Tony C.

·May 2, 2021·Ωf Jury member

Yours is the third from the left, and if you can read the find print below, you will see that it is an "Ace". There were a variety of sub-model names.

 

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Tony C.

Yours is the third from the left, and if you can read the find print below, you will see that it is an "Ace". There were a variety of sub-model names.

Ah I see, very cool!
Thank you 😀

 

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TexOmega

·May 2, 2021

Crown could be correct
Mine is from circa 1943

 

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·May 2, 2021

TexOmega

Crown could be correct
Mine is from circa 1943

Ok yes looks the same I think.
Wow is yours ever nice!!
I heard Gruens are difficult to date - how did you determine ‘43?

 

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TexOmega

·May 2, 2021

Is this a Gruen "Pan Am" or something else? | NAWCC Forums


maybe closer to circa 1946.

movement first produced in circa 1942

bidfun-db Archive: Watch Movements: Gruen 420 (ranfft.de)



And thank you

 

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TexOmega

Is this a Gruen "Pan Am" or something else? | NAWCC Forums


maybe closer to circa 1946.

Oh sorry I certainly wasn’t doubting you, that’s excellent thanks for the link there.
Well I think I just may jump on it - it’s USD 450

 

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TexOmega

·May 2, 2021

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Oh sorry I certainly wasn’t doubting you, that’s excellent thanks for the link there.
Well I think I just may jump on it - it’s USD 450

No harm, no foul......I did not take it as doubt....but my recollection sometimes is fuzzy and I always welcome correction.

 

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JwRosenthal

·May 3, 2021

Here is mine in chrome plated case

 

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·May 3, 2021

JwRosenthal

Here is mine in chrome plated case

Very cool!!

 

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·May 3, 2021

Thanks everyone 👍

 

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JwRosenthal

·May 3, 2021

From what I read (on the internet so take with a grain of salt) and from my own experience is the PanAm was ‘45-‘49. The company changed hands in ‘49 and “Switzerland” at the bottom changed to “Swiss” and the product line-up changed- the PanAm was dropped. So there is a very narrow window on these.
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·May 5, 2021

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From what I read (on the internet so take with a grain of salt) and from my own experience is the PanAm was ‘45-‘49. The company changed hands in ‘49 and “Switzerland” at the bottom changed to “Swiss” and the product line-up changed- the PanAm was dropped. So there is a very narrow window on these.
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Oh that’s very interesting! I was wondering about years of production thanks 😀

 

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·May 5, 2021·Vintage Omega Aficionado

http://www.pixelp.com/gruen/1945.html