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Hi all,
I believe this Pan Am looks good but wondering if there’s any Gruen heads out there that could confirm for me.
Thanks so much!
 
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Tony C.
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I'm not an expert, but do own several Pan Ams, and that looks correct, with the possible exception of the crown.
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Tony C. Tony C.
I'm not an expert, but do own several Pan Ams, and that looks correct, with the possible exception of the crown.
You own several!? Oh cool
Ok thanks a lot
I’ll look into the crown situation
 
Tony C.
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If you have more photos, I could form a more confident opinion.
 
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IIRC that would be a Pan American "Ace".
 
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Tony C. Tony C.
If you have more photos, I could form a more confident opinion.
I’ll try to get some, thanks!
 
Tony C.
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Yours is the third from the left, and if you can read the find print below, you will see that it is an "Ace". There were a variety of sub-model names.

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Tony C. Tony C.
Yours is the third from the left, and if you can read the find print below, you will see that it is an "Ace". There were a variety of sub-model names.

GruPAace.JPG
Ah I see, very cool!
Thank you 😀
 
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TexOmega TexOmega
Crown could be correct
Mine is from circa 1943


Alligator in the weeds.JPG Gruen Pan American ACE circa 1943.JPG
Ok yes looks the same I think.
Wow is yours ever nice!!
I heard Gruens are difficult to date - how did you determine ‘43?
 
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Oh sorry I certainly wasn’t doubting you, that’s excellent thanks for the link there.
Well I think I just may jump on it - it’s USD 450


No harm, no foul......I did not take it as doubt....but my recollection sometimes is fuzzy and I always welcome correction.
 
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From what I read (on the internet so take with a grain of salt) and from my own experience is the PanAm was ‘45-‘49. The company changed hands in ‘49 and “Switzerland” at the bottom changed to “Swiss” and the product line-up changed- the PanAm was dropped. So there is a very narrow window on these.
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From what I read (on the internet so take with a grain of salt) and from my own experience is the PanAm was ‘45-‘49. The company changed hands in ‘49 and “Switzerland” at the bottom changed to “Swiss” and the product line-up changed- the PanAm was dropped. So there is a very narrow window on these.
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Oh that’s very interesting! I was wondering about years of production thanks 😀
 
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