Business is not booming for Hodinkee

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My current favorite tidbit from the WSJ article:
Last October, Hodinkee’s editorial website went down on a critical sales day because the employee whose corporate credit card was tied to the site’s hosting fee had been let go months before.
 
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A recap of the WSJ article:

A profitable Hodinkee raised $40m in 2020 from LVHM, John Mayer, and Tom Brady, among others, in a move “driven by a question: Would people who read about $50,000 watches on Hodinkee buy them there, too?” (See @Evitzee here.) At that point, Ben Clymer handed the CEO position to someone the company brought in and “stayed on as executive chairman, [describing] his current role as ‘the emotional leader of the business.’”

Then, as @reverbtime points out, Hodinkee “bought a ton of luxury watches at the top of the market. What could go wrong?” The $46m Crown & Caliber purchase in February 2021 was meant to capitalize on the secondary market for watches streaking upward amid pandemic-driven online buying.
https://omegaforums.net/threads/business-is-not-booming-for-hodinkee.171432/#post-2332584
“I don’t want to say we were chasing it,” said Clymer, during an interview in Hodinkee’s Manhattan office last month. “But again, we’re looking out the window and I see it’s sunny, I’m not going to put on a raincoat. It’s no different than that. We saw what was happening in the market and we went for it.” In December 2021, the company set a goal of $141 million in revenue, according to a board presentation.

Then, in early 2022, the rains came.

Using sixteen(!) former employees as sources, the article describes Hodinkee as “plagued by overspending and projects that failed to launch.” One project in particular stands out:
A downtown Manhattan retail location that is currently plastered in Hodinkee branding has sat dormant since Hodinkee signed a lease for the space in 2019. According to a former employee familiar with the company’s finances, it eventually cost Hodinkee as much as $80,000 a month.

The purchase of C&C was a mess, with C&C employees resentful at being bought out by a flashy outfit that was actually less profitable than the company they took over. The companies struggled to integrate their operations. WSJ gets Clymer and the current Hodinkee CEO, Jeff Fowler, to deny that they had planned to shut down C&C’s website entirely before confronting them with evidence to the contrary. “When asked about a board presentation that indicated that had been he plan, Clymer responded, ‘Things change.’”

As the company began spiraling, it stopped buying watches and began flogging what they had more frantically. It has cut Hodinkee staff from 160 to around 50, while only 14 C&C staff are left. Some of the past Hodinkee employees the Journal talked to said the company had resorted to marking its slow-moving “limited edition” pieces, such as an Ed Sheeran-branded G-Shock, as sold out even as stock sat unsold.

As someone whose own company is not doing gangbusters, I’m not going to point and laugh at anyone for a failed business venture. I will, however, spare a chuckle for someone who is probably not in close touch with the hundred-odd employees he laid off describing his role as the “emotional leader” of the company.
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Sometimes I am glad I play at the other end of the market.

Easy to get caught up in inventory, I have 19 or 20 Landeron movement plates which make for a whole box of spare parts.

More recently I have been going for the cheapest worst of the worst omegas on eBay and overpaying for the parts so I can see them tick again. It is a buyers market at the moment.

I sometimes think I would rather untangle a hairspring than sell a watch.

I seems Hodinkee did it backwards. They should have sold the name and goodwill while it still had value, rather than to buy the other company. Perhaps that is still the agenda here.
 
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Don't think this article has been shared here yet, business is not booming for Hodinkee after aquiring C&C:

https://www.adweek.com/media/hodinkee-crown-caliber/#
In the beginning, I used to love the scrappy Hodinkee, such as Eric Wind’s weekly article “What’s Selling Where” (that’s his current blog article—may have had a different name under Hodinkee, I can’t remember or find it online). But what always caused me to raise my eyebrows about Hodinkee was their descriptions of their pre-owned watches for sale. They would have a photo (highly retouched and soft-focused) with little arrows pointing to “dial,” “crown,” “dauphin hands”…really?! Wow, thank you for pointing out those features that I would NEVER have noticed on my own! And their videos… like an attractive (duh) young woman interviewing a collector in Paris, walking through a flea market, and after he proudly shows her his watch she tells him she doesn’t like it! I mean, folks, you could edit that part out!
 
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How many shonky pseudo dealers have we seen here over the years get booted when their $$s interfered with their ethics and passion for watches. 😗

This is just on a bigger scale.


Maybe there wasn’t enough people with a Masters degree or higher earning $200K buying three $7k watches a year


 
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How many shonky pseudo dealers have we seen here over the years get booted when their $$s interfered with their ethics and passion for watches. 😗

This is just on a bigger scale.


Maybe there wasn’t enough people with a Masters degree or higher earning $200K buying three $7k watches a year



It reminds me of this scene in Silicon Valley:

They tried to scale a niche business too aggressively, too late into the growth phase of the recent watch boom and got out over their skis.

As someone in a small business that's doubled its budget in the last 2 years, I can say that scaling is really hard to get right. What worked for us when we were a team of 15 doesn't necessarily work for us when we are a team of 30+, and I definitely worry a lot about if we've taken on too much risk and if we'll continue to be sustainable long-term.
 
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Maybe there wasn’t enough people with a Masters degree or higher earning $200K buying three $7k watches a year
Are they buying data? Or are visitors willing giving them personal information? Or did they make that $hit up to fool potential advertisers?

I guess it doesn't matter which. But it tracks with the vibe I've gotten the couple times I visited the web site. I never really felt like it was a place for me to spend time.
 
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Scaling is hard and the pandemic was uncharted territory, but good businesses with good business sense grounded in reality knew that the economic variables of the pandemic & post-pandemic period wouldn't last forever, particularly with luxury items that have a massive used / resale market. Sure, make hay while the sun shines, but don't go out and buy all the new hay balers you can get your hands on.

The prices of watches in that period were reaching fever pitch, and even generic "value" indicators like the graphs on Chrono24 showed the exponential price / "value" increase...forging ahead like the sky was the limit, pretending that prices weren't outpacing value, required either excess spending cash (which is a finite crowd) or ignorance of the unsustainability of [most (see NVIDIA, Tesla, etc)] exponential price increases, and if you're in the latter group you're probably a member of the hype / FOMO crowd, which is not static.
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Are they buying data? Or are visitors willing giving them personal information? Or did they make that $hit up to fool potential advertisers?

I guess it doesn't matter which. But it tracks with the vibe I've gotten the couple times I visited the web site. I never really felt like it was a place for me to spend time.
Never followed Hodinkee but didn't they do a survey of readers?
 
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Hodinkee:
1. Watch enthusiast blog
2. Watch content provider
3. Socially responsible lifestyle content provider
4. Specialty insurance sales
5. Internet watch and trendy fashion sales
6. Vintage and used watch sales
7. Brick and mortar watch boutique

What could go wrong?
 
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How many shonky pseudo dealers have we seen here over the years get booted when their $$s interfered with their ethics and passion for watches. 😗

This is just on a bigger scale.


Maybe there wasn’t enough people with a Masters degree or higher earning $200K buying three $7k watches a year


This explains why I never looked at H
 
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For those who liked the original Hodinkee content I would recommend Hairspring. The watch prices are often astronomical but the copy and context makes for good reading and the enthusiasm is there.
 
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For those who liked the original Hodinkee content I would recommend Hairspring. The watch prices are often astronomical but the copy and context makes for good reading and the enthusiasm is there.

Wowsers, those prices are bananas. I wanted to complain about them listing a 62mas for $6K, but... It does look like a shockingly clean example, if the photos are to be believed.

 
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Wowsers, those prices are bananas. I wanted to complain about them listing a 62mas for $6K, but... It does look like a shockingly clean example, if the photos are to be believed.

They have to get those Seiko’s up to $7k, then the clientele that make over $200k a year, have a master’s degree, surf the web on their work computers and buy 3 of those $7k watches per year will come.
 
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I have never been able to take them seriously just because of their name.

The name sounds like the pet name a 6 year old might use for his foreskin! as such was always doomed!
 
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The name sounds like the pet name a 6 year old might use for his foreskin! as such was always doomed!
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