Business is not booming for Hodinkee

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There is a reason that I haven’t bought (never have and never will) stocks in luxury watch or other luxury companies. With the state of the world economy, and the world itself, I don’t see this as a safe long term investment.
 
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There is a reason that I haven’t bought (never have and never will) stocks in luxury watch or other luxury companies. With the state of the world economy, and the world itself, I don’t see this as a safe long term investment.
Since 2020 shares of LVMH have doubled, Hermes' have tripled, there is always a market for high quality luxury.
 
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Poor pic but this was I think a week or two ago on financial news. Charles Payne had just bought a god teir watch he always wanted but I didn’t catch which one
 
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It's Czech for "watch" ... ?
My father who never wore a wrist watch would always ask me: Kolik je hodin (What time is it?)

I finally bought him a Timex because I knew he would be angry if I bought him an expensive watch. He loved his Timex.
 
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A bloke I used to work with, would always ask: "whats time" in his broken english......I would reply: "Time is an abstract concept used to define the space between two distinct happenings"
 
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My father who never wore a wrist watch would always ask me: Kolik je hodin (What time is it?)

I finally bought him a Timex because I knew he would be angry if I bought him an expensive watch. He loved his Timex.
Ha you reminded me of my pops. He loved watches even got into movements a bit. We never had a lot of money growing up, he grew up very poor in Boston anyway later in life he became one of the countries top metallurgists, got called to work on 911 and study the integrity of the metals after the buildings went down.
I remember visiting them around that time and he made a big announcement that he was going to buy a knew watch. Spent half the day talkin about it until he finally went out the door. I was thinkin good for him he’s getting a Rolex or something. Nope came back all happy with a quartz bulova.

I asked why didn’t he get a Rolex or something. He said why would I waste my money these are more accurate. Guess he had a point.
 
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My dad came back from China with a Chairman Mao and two fake rolexes. They remain his favorite watches.

I tried giving him a nice pie pan constellation. Just is not his thing.

The others were an elgin (which I kept) and A couple Casios which I threw away at eWaste recyclers. They probably were G-Shock. Which I knew nothing about at the time. Probably something to regret. Still there has to be a line drawn somewhere.

More recently I gave him an apple watch which I replaced the screen on. He has been enjoying that, although he tends not to wear watches.

Mom is much harder to please. She liked her 10 buck wallmart watch with a big dial. I keep replacing the battery. Even took it to the hardware store lady what I like. Runs for a bit then quits.

Neither of the parents, or many of my friends really understands my passion for watches. Especially as I never sell them.

But what would I gain for selling stuff in this market? More fiat currency to keep deflating in value. The watches do that just the same. The low end rat watches were 60 to 120 thirty years ago. Such things remain much the same (although the quality now is much worse.)

Watches like junk food give instant gratification. One can get similar feelings from reading a book, the paper, the net or watching a film or YT vid. Food though is fuel, so there will always be a need for that.

Pipe organs are also fun and have a lot of complexity to them as well. They do take up a lot of space. The neighbors do not seem to mind the occasional use (like on the fourth of July) It is the tuning and regulation what annoys. And there is even less market for them than flipping.
 
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My dad came back from China with a Chairman Mao and two fake rolexes. They remain his favorite watches.

I tried giving him a nice pie pan constellation. Just is not his thing.

The others were an elgin (which I kept) and A couple Casios which I threw away at eWaste recyclers. They probably were G-Shock. Which I knew nothing about at the time. Probably something to regret. Still there has to be a line drawn somewhere.

More recently I gave him an apple watch which I replaced the screen on. He has been enjoying that, although he tends not to wear watches.

Mom is much harder to please. She liked her 10 buck wallmart watch with a big dial. I keep replacing the battery. Even took it to the hardware store lady what I like. Runs for a bit then quits.

Neither of the parents, or many of my friends really understands my passion for watches. Especially as I never sell them.

But what would I gain for selling stuff in this market? More fiat currency to keep deflating in value. The watches do that just the same. The low end rat watches were 60 to 120 thirty years ago. Such things remain much the same (although the quality now is much worse.)

Watches like junk food give instant gratification. One can get similar feelings from reading a book, the paper, the net or watching a film or YT vid. Food though is fuel, so there will always be a need for that.

Pipe organs are also fun and have a lot of complexity to them as well. They do take up a lot of space. The neighbors do not seem to mind the occasional use (like on the fourth of July) It is the tuning and regulation what annoys. And there is even less market for them than flipping.
Yup I have a similar watch mindset as you but not the knowledge you have of course. I just don’t like selling watches even the few that would bring me a good profit and only because I got them at a very good deal I ask myself “well if I sell it I’ll never get it again at the deal I got. I have sold a handful of gold watches only because I don’t like wearing gold watches.

The world is at a point where a few people laugh at me for wearing a watch with hands rather than a smart watch. Doesn’t matter if it’s a nice vintage or a newer one.
However with my new studies on the current watch market I’m selling all my investments and I’m going to become a Hamilton flipper. The charts are saying that’s where the money is no way this could go wrong for me
Yup, all in long on Hamilton.
 
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I remain on the fence with Hamilton. May have a few staffs and perhaps some plates somewhere. Especially in the PW department.

Would not mind a ventura or the other one like it. Anything else looks pretty generic.

Do keep an active search tab on shopgoodwill for Hamilton. They get quite tempting from time to time.

Have som JLC swag. Those are not to frequent on the scrap heap market. Hard to spell and hard to pronounce. (Yay Elsie) Then again I have not really been looking.

Perhaps one should stick to swatch as I think JLC and Hamilton are part of Swatch Group formerly known as SMH.


Never been too fond of gold. Way oversubscribed.

Now I have those rods of 99.99% nickel to experiment with electroplating somewhere ... Even a bottle of Vinegar.
 
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If anyone was chomping on the bit for the Dinky special “Ghost” Leica Q2 (not the $15k M10), here is your chance to get it for $1k off the Dinky price. But then you can’t say you actually bought it from the Dink now could you.

https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/803008351-USE/leica_19054_q2_ghost_by_hodinkee.html



Oh- Dink shaming aside- these are fabulous cameras if you like a fixed 28mm prime and the price is now comparable with the standard black body.
 
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Hodinkee is changing: back to the future.
More editorial content.
No selling watches, maybe LE’s.

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Let's wait and see but I find it a comforting thought to know that the founder is able to acknowledge some kind of failures in the past years and decided to go back to what made him successful in the first place. I wish him good luck with that and will check the site more regularly.
 
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I think the changes in direction are great. Let’s see what happens. It is indeed a positive for B. Clymer to admit his mistakes and learn from them. Fail forward! It was not just us here on OF. The comments area was getting more and more critical as well.
 
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Let's wait and see but I find it a comforting thought to know that the founder is able to acknowledge some kind of failures in the past years and decided to go back to what made him successful in the first place. I wish him good luck with that and will check the site more regularly.
That was a very nice letter from Ben with one or two self effacing comments, only one humble brag and he only played the victim at the beginning so that’s some real growth.

For what it’s worth, their new found austerity can be seen right there with this



They have downgraded from Leica & Rolex to Tudor and Sony.
 
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If they aren't adding any more used watches to Crown & Caliber that means that site is dead. It will probably be flogged, and if there is no buyer just shut down. Hodinkee fell afoul of what happens to a lot of companies who try to expand their niche, their hubris got them to expand into areas that they didn't understand.
 
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Hodinkee fell afoul of what happens to a lot of companies who try to expand their niche, their hubris got them to expand into areas that they didn't understand.
A cautionary tale for sure.
 
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Good journalism costs money?
I tend to disagree as some of the best content, including new discoveries in watch history, have been written by volunteer sleuth enthusiasts
with an esoteric knowledge about the specific time pieces they have been focusing on and know best!
Wait a few months when we'll see two books being published by important watch brands, books written by collectors for collectors. Each collector contributing with his/ her amazing knowledge on the wrist watches they adore...
Not everything is about money... Passion drives perfection!
 
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If they aren't adding any more used watches to Crown & Caliber that means that site is dead. It will probably be flogged, and if there is no buyer just shut down. Hodinkee fell afoul of what happens to a lot of companies who try to expand their niche, their hubris got them to expand into areas that they didn't understand.

A lot of stock sitting on their used watches section too. If it were me I'd have a sale, dump the stock, suck up the loss/break even and move on.

If they're not replenishing stock they'll end up having to flog what hasn't sold as a job lot in a year or two/three anyway....if they really want to turn the page better take the pain pill now IMHO.