Breaking News: The New Steel Speedmaster With Caliber 321 “Ed White”

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Hello,

For my first post, I would tell how I am very very happy about my 321.

On my wrist, the 321 is perfectly placed. It really depends on body types and yet I am used to wear thin watches and I was just worried about the thickness of the 321. But it's perfect!!!!

I’ll admit that my side/profile photo above was with my wrist flexed ‘just so’ to exaggerate the levitation...

To answer someone’s question from above: I don’t know how much of the lift is the result of the straight lugs, the sapphire case back, or the combination - I don’t have another sapphire case back to compare.

most interesting would be someone with both a vintage Ed White and the new 321 comparing side profiles 👍

to be clear, though, this is in no way a fatal or even material flaw of the watch, but instead just my own subjective initial impression of a feature that caught my eye
 
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I've been wondering why the new 321 doesn't have painted metal tubes on the seconds, minutes and hour hands?

A technical preference or? A personal like it better when they are painted like the 861 Speedmaster.

@Archer , do you know?

 
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I've been wondering why the new 321 doesn't have painted metal tubes on the seconds, minutes and hour hands?

A technical preference or? A personal like it better when they are painted like the 861 Speedmaster.

@Archer , do you know?


I don't know the reason specifically, but my guess would be that this is the area where the paint tends to come off first, so it makes sense not to put it there.
 
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Just a general inquiry - has anyone actually put down a deposit with an AD (not OB). I have my name on a waiting list at the LV OB and HNL OB says the watches are distributed via a compiled list of all worldwide OB's...not sure if that is true. My AD has offered to try and procure one for me with a $4,500 refundable deposit, but has said they have no idea on wait time. I'm sure if I bought the Lange 1 (grail watch!), that could be quicker. I'm trying to convince myself that the 321+Lange 1 = all my 2 watch fancy collection.
 
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::facepalm1::Fancy collection unless you have them both. We all know that 😉

So far in the Czech Republic (EU) no deposits required. And that applies not only to 321 Ed White but for new Snoopy as well. They started distributing heavily requested models in the same way Rolex boutiques do. No clear rules, you only put down your name in the list and then wait for the call. Which means you can get the watch earlier at one place and later at the other one. Same is happening with Submariners here. At one boutique you get one in 3 month but in the same time other guy waits for his one for year already ::facepalm1::
 
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My understanding is the distribution of 321 and Snoopy is now being controlled by headquarters in Switzerland based on client lists submitted by each boutique, it matches what you are being told. I think this policy started around early November. The watches being shipped to boutiques are assigned specifically to clients. Not sure what's happening with pieces going to ADs, a smaller number may still be going to ADs and they may have more freedom to decide who to sell to.
 
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Does the new 321 movement in the Ed White have a power reserve indicator? I see a pointer on the movement that looks like it moves and points from A - R??? I apologize in advance if this question has already been answered.

Thanks OF.
 
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Does the new 321 movement in the Ed White have a power reserve indicator? I see a pointer on the movement that looks like it moves and points from A - R??? I apologize in advance if this question has already been answered.

Thanks OF.

No, that's for adjusting the rate of the movement faster (Advance) or slower (Retard)...
 
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Kinda agree. With a fair dial (like the ck2998s), it's not too bothering as there is not too much reflection. With a dark dial (like the FOIS), indeed, it kinda kills the look.

Over here I posted a thread looking to understand why the .321 doesn’t have the “milky ring” etc of the normal sapphire speedy’s. Could be because it has a special “domed” sapphire unlike the boxed sapphire on other speedys, a difference in the rehaute, or both/other.

cross-posting here in case others have a view - and also bc @STANDY mentioned that somewhere there’s a thread discussing the differences in the .321’s sapphire, comparison photos, etc. - but I don’t find it (and would be interested to see)

 
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Over here I posted a thread looking to understand why the .321 doesn’t have the “milky ring” etc of the normal sapphire speedy’s. Could be because it has a special “domed” sapphire unlike the boxed sapphire on other speedys, a difference in the rehaute, or both/other.

cross-posting here in case others have a view - and also bc @STANDY mentioned that somewhere there’s a thread discussing the differences in the .321’s sapphire, comparison photos, etc. - but I don’t find it (and would be interested to see)


I remember reading it, So there is pictures with both crystals and a comparison withe a ruler placed on top with some markings. It’s in a thread somewhere about the difference of the 321 milky ring not being as milky.

Edit : Had a quick look but been busy today. Obviously buried in one of the threads on the 321 but dont really care enough to look at 1000+ posts or 100 pages to find for you guys.😉

Edit: #2 I do care for you guys 👍 here is what I was thinking of......

https://omegaforums.net/threads/wil...ire-crystal-for-the-speedmaster.104098/page-3
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Someone ought to create a registry of these pieces. I'm curious how many have been brought into the world. I'm patiently waiting my turn.
 
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With these pieces are the serial numbers randomized, or are they in sequence? There were some comments earlier in this thread about serial numbers and comments about how early in production certain pieces were.

I’m really curious about this, if we can determine what number off the line each piece is.
 
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I’m throwing out a ballpark guess, and only a guess of maybe 300 to 400 pieces worldwide delivered based on the fact it has been about 6 months since start of delivery, they are targeting 1000 to 2000 per year, and this year production may have been slow or reduced due to COVID. I received mine around 3rd week of September.
 
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Agree, but what I’m asking is, are the serial numbers in sequence? Are they printed in order, or are they completely random?
 
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There was at first hope for some logic with all serials having the same structure and only the last 3 digits (###) changing, which we could have interpreted as #produced of the calibre 321. However, also the beginnings of the serials vary, some starting 887xxx###, others 888xxx### and independent of Steel or Platinum 321.

Sure only Omega knows. Maybe (just a theory) each „single“ watchmaker is indicated by the 3rd digit? This is just a wild theory.
 
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Good to know. My serial starts of with a few digits that I assume indicate the model and then 00005. I was hoping that meant it might be the 5th one made. Lol
 
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Good to know. My serial starts of with a few digits that I assume indicate the model and then 00005. I was hoping that meant it might be the 5th one made. Lol

There was at first hope for some logic with all serials having the same structure and only the last 3 digits (###) changing, which we could have interpreted as #produced of the calibre 321. However, also the beginnings of the serials vary, some starting 887xxx###, others 888xxx### and independent of Steel or Platinum 321.

As yet another confirmation of the lack of apparent sequence:

According to RJ’s hands-on video, his was amongst the earliest delivered (early July), and his serial is 88800036

Mine was delivered December 26th, serial 887007xx

So, another datum toward “887” numerically proceeds “888” is irrelevant to production order, and also 7xx is the highest I’ve seen recounted

I’ve assumed that when Omega has stated it will produce ~1000 SS Ed White/year, that number was aspirational for a full production year (such as 2021), rather than 2020 (and further that COVID might have some lowering effects on 2020 productivity).

Here’s a question/musing for any resident wizard: in general, when Omega “produces” a movement, are any ever tested and found to be somehow deficient enough to not be sold? That is, does normal production produce any duds?

Id so, I wonder if those duds have been assigned a serial that is then out of circulation, or instead serials aren’t assigned until a movements been approved for circulation.

Every serial-counting exercise I’ve seen appears to assume that every serial number is put in circulation, and that may well be true, but I’d be interested to hear why.
 
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The serials identify the 321 movements so they are shared between the platinum and the SS Ed White. They appear to come as a sequence, though there are two "series", 887xxxxx and 888xxxxx. I assume that the first few hundreds were for the platinum - some say there were 500 of them. The lowest serial in the 887 series I have seen for an Ed White was a 887xx4xx.

Also, I have been told that the advertised 1000-2000 annual production is a "maximum that they can possibly do at full steam". It does not mean they will steadily produce those numbers - and this seems to be the case for 2020. Omega will most likely produce just enough to meet the demand whilst keeping them hard to get.