First it was pre-moon 145.022s, then we saw a couple of Autavias. Now our friends the California counterfeiters are trying their hands at faking Heuer Camaros. Same hallmarks as the others, same photography, same account BS.

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Is this perhaps the latest sign that Camaros are taking off in value like their contemporary Heuer brethren?

 

Higher-res image for posterity:

 

Funny really - From just one glance at the picture you can tell exactly who's selling it.

 

Counterfeit or pieced together?

 

The only part that I think could potentially be genuine is the case. It's possible the dial is genuine but refinished, though I doubt it.

 

I think its just semantics...I agree this is 100% crap. But I always considered a counterfeit as something that was produced. This is genuine vintage watch(s)...just not a Camaro

 

I think even if they're genuine vintage watch parts, if they're dressed up to resemble a more valuable model, it's counterfeit. I don't know what that dial came from but the painted markings are incorrect, and the metal markers are totally wrong.



I also don't think this movement came from a Heuer - the bridge markings are incorrectly aligned / spaced compared to examples I've seen, and given the previously-documented practices of this seller the entire bridge itself was probably (re-)engraved

 

Its the modern counterfeiter.

 

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And what's he buying... wonder how these will look when they reappear.

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LeJour + Reengraved 7736 -> Camaro
Gallet + yet to be received 72/EP -> ???

 

Bet the Gallet case and 7733 becomes an "Autavia."

The LeJour well.... it says right in the title: Heuer. Bet it'll turn out looking something like this:



(Sold in January, only a week after the LeJour ended, for 2.5x the price)
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Lack of shock protection is another data point.

 

Here’s one from my actual real movement

 

night and day difference.

 

This watch already sold once. Either the buyer figured it out or he artificially upped his bid and his buddy won it. Also I noticed that he said Valjoux 92. Although his watch is a Franken mine is a 7732 so it’s not an exact comparison

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Shameless.

 

Yours is a 7733 (reference 7743) so the markings aren't really comparable, but there are plenty of Vj92 Camaro images out there to compare

 

These posts remind me to ONLY buy from trusted sellers. I don’t know enough to ever spot a fake.