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More mundane but equally baffling are some of the trashed hairsprings I come across.. How do you even do this?! There are no tangles here, only bends. I try to imagine how someone might have managed this, and I really can’t.



I got it to a semi-workable state, but come on..

 
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Not quite as cool as the rest of you, but I'll submit one. This is a Quartz ST Dupont tank watch that was sent my way. REALLY art-deco and kinda cool.

One of the hands fell off apparently during shipping, and the previous watchmaker spent a WHILE trying to pry the case back off. This is the best photo I could get of it, but said case knife did some serious damage, and he eventually gave up and called it 'unrepairable'.




HAD he spent some time on it (that is, actually taken the straps off!) he would have realized there were 4 screws in the side of the case holding it together. Only photo I have, but you can see two of them here 😀



I don't have any after photos (this is ALSO the one where that gasket you can see fell into a few pieces, from I shaped to L Shaped, as soon as I opened the case), but I DID use a gentle amount of hammering to get it looking... a little better? But the original guy's work will be with this one forever 😀
 
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That is like some of the Waltham and Illinois pocket watches I've observed recently that people have been trying to pry open with the case knife before realising they have screw back/bezel. 'Some' meaning more than two 😅. Here in EUR side of the pond it appears hinges are what people are used to with pocket watches (just an observation on limited sample size).
 
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Omega 551 in a Constellation, last serviced in 2009. How do I know that? Well...



Because this idiotic watchmaker scratched it into the dial side of the movement. It's not the first watch from this watchmaker that I've had on my bench that he has intentionally damaged by adding a star and date scratched into the movement.
 
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Got this one today in a 1963 Seiko Cronos Special. It was running.. somehow. Amplitude is a little high (~325) after servicing so I’m guessing they put an extra stiff mainspring in to compensate for the inevitable amplitude problems this ‘fix’ caused, among other things.

 
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This rare piercing limited edition<tm> Zenith cal 120-T dress watch appeared today in Finnish craigslist/willhaben equivalent (tori). Dial dots (or whatever those adhesive tapes are called) are so yesterday, so let's do this thing right!

 
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I've seen that fix a couple of times now, I have no idea what makes someone try that. IMO, dial-dots are kind of a garbage repair anyway (you should be fixing dial feet, the repair kits with super glue are so cheap there's little reason not to), and this is a whole level beyond that crap!
 
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This thread is both fascinating, entertaining, and killing me with my OCD. I'm in need of a good [caring] watchmaker for some recently acquired vintage timepieces, and this thread ain't making me less paranoid about who I can trust with my watches.

The price I pay to enjoy this thread is calculated in therapy bills.

Have a good day, all.
 
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Here is an Omega that came my way from an acquaintance that wanted to 'getting running well', 18k case. Inside caseback has no markings other than a serial and some gold markings, so probably not a swiss made case. A bit odd of a Constellation case, and I mentioned that the dial seemed very much to be a redial.

Movement I expected was a bumper movement, but was shocked to find a 563! The timegrapher wasn't bad, but definitely showed it needed service, but after getting the clearly-aftermarket hands off, I found the dial screws were missing. The dial very clearly doesn't belong on this movement and is a 'snap on' style, but its too big for this movement, so they double-sided taped it down!

The dial ended up losing 2 markers while I was messing with it (as careful as I could be, but the work of just moving it around got some previously glued markers to fall off. This clearly happened a few times before to the previous watchmakers though, plenty of glue marks everywhere on this one.

A bit of an unfortunate mish-mash of stuff.
 
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Maybe a bit off topic but i am looking for a 321 mainplate and found this one. Rhodium colour is that for a service item ?
Main question is does it look useable ? or are the scratches/marks above the space for the crown wheels to bad ?
Same for the "crow bar" marks between 4 and 5 oclock.
And what are the two + symbols scratch in for, to reduce "play" as described here before ? Thanks all for your help.

 
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No picture, but a sign of negligence by a “technician”. I got a call from a member of the repair fraternity. He had a Bulova pocket watch that neither guy in the shop could diagnose and cure. He told me the watch had been cleaned FOUR TIMES, but still was erratic and kept stopping. I picked it up, and the very second I popped the back off, I pretty well knew it was badly magnetized owing to the motion of the balance wheel! A quick trip through my demagnetizer and problem solved. Re-set to time, 48 hour test, problem solved, There is more to this craft than to be able to dismantle and assemble a watch! 50 % of the business is diagnosis!
 
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Maybe a bit off topic but i am looking for a 321 mainplate and found this one. Rhodium colour is that for a service item ?
Main question is does it look useable ? or are the scratches/marks above the space for the crown wheels to bad ?
Same for the "crow bar" marks between 4 and 5 oclock.
And what are the two + symbols scratch in for, to reduce "play" as described here before ? Thanks all for your help.

Can't say I recall ever seeing one that wasn't the typical copper coloured plating. You do realize that all the jewels have been removed, right? So at the very least you will either have to find the jewels, or transfer from another main plate that I'm guessing you might be replacing for some reason...

With how strange this is, I would be worried there's something else going on that is not easily identifiable...
 
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With how strange this is, I would be worried there's something else going on that is not easily identifiable...
me too 🙂 so thank you and happy to have checked here first.
The mainplate i am looking at to replace has way to much play on the stem and winding gears, and a complete donor movement is to expensive. So i am dropping this project.
 
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I recently had a pocket watch the owner wanted restored. It was however, in an epic state of neglect/abuse/damage and beyond redemption.
In order to make it into a sentimental ornament, I decided to strip/clean and prevent any further rust etc.

In the process I found this, an early watchmaker's "hack" to adjust balance end shake.
Just take a small bit of folded watch paper and problem solved!
🙄