Back When Air Travel Was Special

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There Were some cracking planes in the golden age (wicker chairs anyone) . Also maybe I maligned them on safety.
The Handley page HP42 did not loose a single passenger during its 10 years flying people around the empire. Maybe more aircraft should have candelabra fitted (Hadley Page W8).. funny but at the start of WW2 they were given to the the RAF who managed to crash them all in short order. The toilet room in the last photo looks a bit breezy/ don’t take your hat old boy…..bombs away :0)
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I had to pop into Duxford on Friday so took the time to imagine a flight on a Handley Page Hermes or a Comet... in an emergency please pull your curtains :0).
Lovely looking aircraft with luxury fittings. The bathroom was busy so I did not intrude :0).
The last plane needs no introductions - Still looks amazing and was so spectacularly fast.
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On board a Ford tri-motor. Wikipedia says that 18 of these still exist, but fewer than 8 are airworthy.



 
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Hey, that good 'ole boy wasn't wearing a mask and endangering the entire plane with his non-compliance. Of course Karen didn't have her mask on either. It's all stupid at this point. Pure Kabuki theater.
Come on, don’t be ignorant “endangering the whole plane without a mask” Really
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Not sure if from the same period, but I’ve heard they would give you these with your meals
 
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While this thread is about air travel, I think it's appropriate to share the following, as it's related to how much has changed.

During the 60's, when the military transferred a family from the States to Europe they usually traveled by ship. I recently found some mementos from an Atlantic crossing we made on the USS United States. I vaguely recalled the ship (we made 3 crossings by ship) and mostly recall being bored for the 10 days or so it took.



What was remarkable here was the menu. I had no idea.


I don't think I would have wanted to be the parents who had to dress up their kids for dinner every day, but damn we looked good!



My mother, who managed to look amazing while caring for two obnoxious and bored boys. Check out the people sitting in the background. Frank Sinatra wouldn't look out of place there.

 
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While this thread is about air travel, I think it's appropriate to share the following, as it's related to how much has changed.

During the 60's, when the military transferred a family from the States to Europe they usually traveled by ship. I recently found some mementos from an Atlantic crossing we made on the USS United States. I vaguely recalled the ship (we made 3 crossings by ship) and mostly recall being bored for the 10 days or so it took.



What was remarkable here was the menu. I had no idea.


I don't think I would have wanted to be the parents who had to dress up their kids for dinner every day, but damn we looked good!



My mother, who managed to look amazing while caring for two obnoxious and bored boys. Check out the people sitting in the background. Frank Sinatra wouldn't look out of place there.

Amazing family, story and menu. I want to know more.
 
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Amazing family, story and menu. I want to know more.

Thanks. Remarkably, that Ocean crossing was fairly typical for a young Army family. It was simply cheaper to send families by ship than fly. My father was a young officer so we had slightly better accommodations than an enlisted person. Plus the obligation to dress up.

The military tended to move families every 3 years or so. In my third grade, i was in three different schools. This happened because we moved to a new assignment when he got orders to Vietnam, so we had to move the family again soon after arrival. Not terribly unusual for the military but strange to a civilian. Military brats have a shared experience.

A couple of memories from traveling. On the first trip over (not this one), my brother was snatched back from trying to climb out a porthole window. I think that was on the Rose or Buckner, military transports that weren't as nice as the United States. My mother complained that families were allowed 30 mins to eat and weren't allowed food in the cabins. My younger brother didn't want to eat during the appointed half hour so my mother was forced to sneak milk into the cabin. The military had its rules and expected babies to comply.

We were stationed in Germany from about 63 to 66, and again from about 68 to 72. For background, my mother was born in Germany and left in 1945 when she was 12. That is a long story. But the point here is that she spoke German so we may have had a different experience than perhaps some military families. For example, my father had a German civilian who worked for him. He became a friend of the family, so much so that my wife and I visited him decades later. He was a German fighter pilot during the war who flew ME fighters and transport planes. At the end of the war, he landed his plane and just walked away, but not before removing his clock or altimeter (I can't remember which. He had it on his bookshelf when we visited his house.) When the US Army arrived, they made him help with administration. After awhile, he became an official employee of the Dept of Defense, which is how he ended up working for my father.

He entered before the war, which meant he had a full training. He told us this was how he likely survived. Later in the war he would see young guys show up and be gone the next day. The somewhat funny story that any military person will appreciate is that right after he got his wings, he buzzed low over his town. Unfortunately for him, an officer was on leave and noted his numbers on his plane. His pay was docked for the duration of the war. Here the Germans desperately needed pilots and this guy was being fined the whole time. Looking back, I realized there were likely a lot of ex-military and Nazis everywhere. It's amazing what Germany has become since then.

Last story. During our second trip, we were stationed in Frankfurt. My Dad was a Scoutmaster and we took our Scout trip to Berlin on a train. I was about 11. Because we went through East Germany, we were supposed to keep the curtains closed. Of course we peeked out. It was strange to see guards with machine guns at the train stops. Once in Berlin, we visited Check Point Charley and the wall. It makes an impression on you. From Germany we moved to New Jersey, where no one else had a parent in the Army. My Dad left for his second tour to Vietnam, which nobody in our town could relate to. In fact, my mother attended a parent teacher conference for my brother and the teacher said my brother had a problem with lying. When my mother asked why, the teacher said it was because he said he was from Germany, which of course he was since we just moved from there. He hated that teacher after that.

Dad also had a boy scout troop in Vietnam (he served two tours.) We used to send scarves and patches back and forth between New Jersey and Saigon. I found lots of pictures after he died. He wasn't the same after that experience. That's another long story.

Thanks for asking and reading. It's hard to condense a life into a brief post. I hope I was able to give you a flavor of what it was like. I suspect other military brats will be able to relate.

Cheers,

Dave
 
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Thanks. Remarkably, that Ocean crossing was fairly typical for a young Army family. It was simply cheaper to send families by ship than fly. My father was a young officer so we had slightly better accommodations than an enlisted person. Plus the obligation to dress up.

The military tended to move families every 3 years or so. In my third grade, i was in three different schools. This happened because we moved to a new assignment when he got orders to Vietnam, so we had to move the family again soon after arrival. Not terribly unusual for the military but strange to a civilian. Military brats have a shared experience.

A couple of memories from traveling. On the first trip over (not this one), my brother was snatched back from trying to climb out a porthole window. I think that was on the Rose or Buckner, military transports that weren't as nice as the United States. My mother complained that families were allowed 30 mins to eat and weren't allowed food in the cabins. My younger brother didn't want to eat during the appointed half hour so my mother was forced to sneak milk into the cabin. The military had its rules and expected babies to comply.

We were stationed in Germany from about 63 to 66, and again from about 68 to 72. For background, my mother was born in Germany and left in 1945 when she was 12. That is a long story. But the point here is that she spoke German so we may have had a different experience than perhaps some military families. For example, my father had a German civilian who worked for him. He became a friend of the family, so much so that my wife and I visited him decades later. He was a German fighter pilot during the war who flew ME fighters and transport planes. At the end of the war, he landed his plane and just walked away, but not before removing his clock or altimeter (I can't remember which. He had it on his bookshelf when we visited his house.) When the US Army arrived, they made him help with administration. After awhile, he became an official employee of the Dept of Defense, which is how he ended up working for my father.

He entered before the war, which meant he had a full training. He told us this was how he likely survived. Later in the war he would see young guys show up and be gone the next day. The somewhat funny story that any military person will appreciate is that right after he got his wings, he buzzed low over his town. Unfortunately for him, an officer was on leave and noted his numbers on his plane. His pay was docked for the duration of the war. Here the Germans desperately needed pilots and this guy was being fined the whole time. Looking back, I realized there were likely a lot of ex-military and Nazis everywhere. It's amazing what Germany has become since then.

Last story. During our second trip, we were stationed in Frankfurt. My Dad was a Scoutmaster and we took our Scout trip to Berlin on a train. I was about 11. Because we went through East Germany, we were supposed to keep the curtains closed. Of course we peeked out. It was strange to see guards with machine guns at the train stops. Once in Berlin, we visited Check Point Charley and the wall. It makes an impression on you. From Germany we moved to New Jersey, where no one else had a parent in the Army. My Dad left for his second tour to Vietnam, which nobody in our town could relate to. In fact, my mother attended a parent teacher conference for my brother and the teacher said my brother had a problem with lying. When my mother asked why, the teacher said it was because he said he was from Germany, which of course he was since we just moved from there. He hated that teacher after that.

Dad also had a boy scout troop in Vietnam (he served two tours.) We used to send scarves and patches back and forth between New Jersey and Saigon. I found lots of pictures after he died. He wasn't the same after that experience. That's another long story.

Thanks for asking and reading. It's hard to condense a life into a brief post. I hope I was able to give you a flavor of what it was like. I suspect other military brats will be able to relate.

Cheers,

Dave
Your post and story made my day, and I thank you and your family for your service to our great country.
 
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While this thread is about air travel, I think it's appropriate to share the following, as it's related to how much has changed.

During the 60's, when the military transferred a family from the States to Europe they usually traveled by ship. I recently found some mementos from an Atlantic crossing we made on the USS United States. I vaguely recalled the ship (we made 3 crossings by ship) and mostly recall being bored for the 10 days or so it took.



What was remarkable here was the menu. I had no idea.


I don't think I would have wanted to be the parents who had to dress up their kids for dinner every day, but damn we looked good!



My mother, who managed to look amazing while caring for two obnoxious and bored boys. Check out the people sitting in the background. Frank Sinatra wouldn't look out of place there.

Thank you for sharing this! I have actually been aboard the United States in its current state- so sad to see it forlorn but at least it is at dock and safe from the breaker for now.

https://www.ssusc.org/
 
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Thank you for sharing this! I have actually been aboard the United States in its current state- so sad to see it forlorn but at least it is at dock and safe from the breaker for now.

https://www.ssusc.org/
At one time it had tge speed record for crossing the Atlantic. It's a great looking ship. I'm hoping @speedbird will make a model of it. He's crazy talented!
 
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Anyone old enough to remember this?

Fresh draft beer on Lufthansa flights in the 1960s.
 
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Great thread. I do have fond memories of flying in the 747 when I was a child in the late 1970s. Back then, most people dressed up to get on a plane even if it was cattle class. The inflight entertainment options were also a lot less. Remember the plastic tube headphones that you plugged into the armrest? And selecting audio channels by rotating a dial? I remember perusing the inflight magazine to see what movies were available and then crossing my fingers and hoping that my preferred option would be screened later. The air hostess would pull down a white screen from the bulkhead in front, and an overhead projector would play the movie. Just like in a cinema. As a child, you could also request to visit the cockpit and chat to the pilots. Those were the days...
 
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... As a child, you could also request to visit the cockpit and chat to the pilots. Those were the days...

Forgot about that. They also gave you wings.

 
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I remember the glory days of air travel when you would sit down in your seat and the arm rests had those nasty little flip up ashtrays.

Those were the days!

Would you believe that the the American 757-200 I took to Honolulu in 2018 had operating ash trays? I checked the registration. It was first registered in 1988! Terrible flight. Old ~12" CRT TV screens with screwed up colors in the overhead every few rows. I was in a middle seat between two big guys and I'm a big guy but we suffered together.
 
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Would you believe that the the American 757-200 I took to Honolulu in 2018 had operating ash trays? I checked the registration. It was first registered in 1988! Terrible flight. Old ~12" CRT TV screens with screwed up colors in the overhead every few rows. I was in a middle seat between two big guys and I'm a big guy but we suffered together.
The last domestic 747 flew it’s last run a few years ago- United from Chicago to Hawaii. I took that flight back back in ‘07 and remembered why I love that aircraft so much. Two isles so you can walk laps around the plane. A huge rear galley that becomes a party mid-flight. Plenty of lavatories. But the 747 is an expensive aircraft to operate…,and it’s all about cheap.
 
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Terrible flight. Old ~12" CRT TV screens with screwed up colors in the overhead every few rows. I was in a middle seat between two big guys and I'm a big guy but we suffered together.

Long ago in a universe far too close there used to be just one screen at the front of the cattle-car. You could watch for free, but to hear cost rental of a headset. So one long flight I ponied up for the headset to find the movie was one entitled "Silent movie" which had exactly one line of monologue, which was spoken by Marcel Marceau -- a mine artist.

That was the last five bucks an airline got from me for a movie!
 
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Long ago in a universe far too close there used to be just one screen at the front of the cattle-car. You could watch for free, but to hear cost rental of a headset. So one long flight I ponied up for the headset to find the movie was one entitled "Silent movie" which had exactly one line of monologue, which was spoken by Marcel Marceau -- a mine artist.

That was the last five bucks an airline got from me for a movie!

Oh yeah, we all laughed about our predicament even though it doesn't sound as poor as yours. Would you believe I haven't stepped a foot on a commercial aircraft since then? Actually, my experience might've been as far back as 2017, now that I'm thinking about it.