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Hi All,

Just wanted your input on a Omega Geneve from a UK watchmaker!

This will be my first Omega watch and primarily buying it for my wedding, so I wanted a more 'dressier' watch.

The description is as follows:

Omega Geneve two tone crosshair SOLID GOLD

Manual wind cal.267

ref. 13332

serial-1579- 1956

Case size 34 mm without crown-light scratches,SOLID GOLD 9CT excellent condit -One scratch on Case Back 1,5-2mm

Original dial TWO TONE CROSSHAIR !!! -

omega crown

overall condition Very good

case original vintage condition

new dark brown/ burgundy leather strap

fully serviced

without box and papers


Please let me know if I need to put more info in.

Thanks in advance,
 
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Hello. Congrats on the wedding.

The dial looks fine to me, but the picture isn’t great to be 100% sure. However I think there are a couple of the other issues…

First the case isn’t that sharp - see picture below and look at the lugs for comparison. Also the hands seem long. The crown looks close to what’s expected but not quite the correct one.

Note that the numbers on the case back (last three digits) need to match the lug number (not visible in the picture) on this ref.

Maybe you care, maybe you don’t! Not everyone is looking for a fully original example, but if you’re asking here you might! However I have a feeling this will be priced insanely high. What’s the asking price?

Given it’s 9kt this would not be as much as a 18k gold example.

The watch below sold in the UK (at a dealer) a few months back for around 1300£ as a reference. Some of these 9k Dennison have also sold for 800-900€ on eBay in the past year- two years if I recall properly. Just to give you an idea of a “fair” price point between private people / dealers.

 
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Omg thank you for your quick reply and all the info.

I can completely see what you are saying about the hands are too long etc and the rest of it.

Yeah it was quite expensive, the asking was 2k...I have just found one on Ebay for £1300.

The hands look much better, and there is an image of the lug reference which matches the case.

The dial has more patina but it looks good, can you please take a look for me?

I have also found one being sold by a member of this forum, from the Netherlands for the same price. But I don't know how to link other threads etc But it looks clean etc

Thank you
 
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I forgot to add the description -

Omega Genève 9K Solid Gold 1957 Cross Hair Dial Manual Wind Vintage Watch Cal267

The In-house Omega Calibre 267 Manual Wind Movement runs well and keeps time. Hands set nicely.

The slightly two tone pie-pan dial is in stunning vintage condition with beautiful patina. Polished arrow hour indices and hands. With 3, 9 & 12 Numerals.

The watch features an Omega signed winding crown

Measures approx 34mm wide (excluding crown), 18mm strap width and 41mm lug to lug.

Fitted with an Omega signed leather strap and buckle
 
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Omg thank you for your quick reply and all the info.

I can completely see what you are saying about the hands are too long etc and the rest of it.

Yeah it was quite expensive, the asking was 2k...I have just found one on Ebay for £1300.

The hands look much better, and there is an image of the lug reference which matches the case.

The dial has more patina but it looks good, can you please take a look for me?

I have also found one being sold by a member of this forum, from the Netherlands for the same price. But I don't know how to link other threads etc But it looks clean etc

Thank you
When is your wedding?

For me the second one is a no go at whatever price. The dial is too patinated and the case is completely polished.

Can you paste the link from the other one?
 
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Thank you for your replies, it feels like an absolute minefield.

I don't mind if it's not 100% authentic, I just want to pay a fair price for something.

We got engaged in October, we haven't settled on a date yet but thinking it will be this summer...if we can plan it quick enough.

Link - https://omega-independent.co.uk/ols...9ct-1960-eaae23f1-20a4-4f15-a852-4addc094ebc1

And the link to the Omega Forum user selling the same watch - https://omegaforums.net/threads/vintage-omega-geneve-9k-gold-13332.188103/

Thanks again,
 
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This will be my first Omega watch and primarily buying it for my wedding, so I wanted a more 'dressier' watch.
Asking @Tony C. to stop by and help you out 😁

Also, there's a bit of a collectors guide to these models here:
 
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I think you may need to be more patient. At any given time, there initially seem to be a lot of watches for sale, but most of what you are looking at has been sitting unsold for months, for a reason. When something good is listed at a fair price, it sells quickly, so you should keep your eyes open.

The first one has been pimped for sale, but has issues that make it uninteresting to a collector, and the price is far too high given those issues. If you are going to overpay to that extent, you should get an excellent example. The second has an ugly water-damaged dial.

If you want a gold colored watch, you can also look for gold-capped (not gold-filled) examples. The price will be in the same range as 9k or less, and they are more common.
 
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I second what Dan said. Patience is key. For this reference you want the cleanest possible dial at the very least.

If it’s meant to be your wedding watch, I assume you want something special… the watch would have sentimental value and would be a keeper… based on that, I personally would go with the highest possible condition. A watch that is so-so will forever be mediocre.

Condition, originality and price is a difficult combo to strike, especially on a deadline - so maybe broadening the search could be a good idea (even to other lines like Seamaster and Constellation). Omega produced a myriad of beautiful dress watches in the 1950-60s.

Or paying a premium is also acceptable, if budget allows, but really only for a strong piece... at least that would be my personal advice.
 
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The first one has some problems, and is a franken at best. No way a case that has been that polished has a dial that looks like that. I'd guess it is a replacement dial (though, it looks authentic enough). The hands are very clearly wrong/mismatched and $2000 is A LOT for it.

IF you are looking for a wedding watch, I suggest you 'widen your search' and figure out what is important to you. What sizes do you want? 34mm is pretty small. You seemingly want gold, and a light colored dial? 3 hander, presumably thin?

Figure out the requirements list and search based on those, and I suspect you can find something much nicer and reasonably priced easily enough.