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Autavia Viceroy - date disc color, please?

  1. Lonestar insert Schwartz joke HERE Feb 6, 2017

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    Hi All

    I am looking at a Viceroy at the moment. It has a dark date disc (so date printing is white on a dark background). I am confused as all the Viceroys I've seen so far have it the other way around, black print on pale (white/gray) background.

    any perspective from the people in the know is welcome :)

    Thanks!
    Paul
     
  2. abrod520 Feb 6, 2017

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    It's probably a date disc from a Hamilton Chrono-Matic model - all of the early automatic Heuer Autavias used white date discs.

    Run away from it, fast
     
  3. X350 XJR Vintage Omega Aficionado Feb 6, 2017

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    Mine is black on a light background.
     
  4. Mark5 Feb 6, 2017

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    As far as I remember, I've never seen a black date Viceroy.
    I'm no specialist, but I've seen quite a few.
     
  5. gr8sw Feb 6, 2017

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    should look like this...

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  6. Lonestar insert Schwartz joke HERE Feb 7, 2017

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    Thank you Gentlemen.

    I also got a "red flag" from Abel Court, who kindly engaged into the conversation too :)

    Never mind... no Autavia for me this time... yet!

    @gr8sw: just what I like in a watch... reverse panda, a dash of color, c-ish-case, a crisp tachy ring, a dark leather strap with stitching that recalls the aforementionned colors, very very nice... if you're thinking about selling, you've got a customer ;)

    Thanks all!
    Paul
     
  7. OmegaCal66 Feb 9, 2017

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    Like this?
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  8. abrod520 Feb 9, 2017

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    Yes, or any of the other Hamilton models using the Chronomatic movement-

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    It seems that of all of the companies producing watches with the Chronomatic movement, only Hamilton used a white-on-black date disc. All of the others - Heuer, Breitling especially - used black-on-white discs. Why this Autavia was frankened with what is likely a far more rare part than the OEM-spec disc is beyond me, maybe the seller just had one lying around.
     
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  9. PaulG Vintage Heuer Connoisseur Feb 11, 2017

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    Polite correction - almost all Heuer automatics had a black on white date disc.
    regards
    Paul
    www.heuerworld.com
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  10. Lonestar insert Schwartz joke HERE Feb 22, 2017

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    All, never thanked you for all the info.

    Turns out actually that the whole ad was a true scam... actually, good thing that this disc color kinda ticked me off, because I could have very well fallen for the whole thing and not even gotten any watch at all in the end... So thank you all :)

    Still searching for a nice, (somewhat) affordable Viceroy :)

    Cheers!
    Paul