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  1. LouS Mrs Nataf's Other Son Staff Member Dec 2, 2012

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    Recently, Zenith has made much of the fact that the company owns the rights to 'Pilot' as a name for a watch. In fact, they've built a whole model line around it, some attractive, some not, and some just bizarre. While the marketing machine churns on, it is interesting to see where the name was first used.

    This little guy just in from a Swiss connection:

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    The Pilot line was introduced in the mid-1950s as a steel, shock-protected, antimagnetic everyman's watch with luminescence for night legibility, eventually also acquiring hacking. It exists in numerous versions, including a very few in 18K late in the production run. It is not clear when the model line extinguished, but certainly by the late 1960s it seems to have vanished.

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    prominently advertised features on the back
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    call 12-4-P-50-6 inside
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    the whole flight crew
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    Probably because it runs a little small (32.5-34mm), it has been ignored by the market, and decent examples can be got for $150 or so.
     
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  2. ulackfocus Dec 2, 2012

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    Shut the f..... ront door! Really? We might be chatting soon.
     
  3. MMMD unaffiliated curmudgeonly absurdist & polyologist Dec 2, 2012

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    And by bizarre, he means this:

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    More like an Aer Lingus flight attendant watch, really. But dammit, I like it.
     
  4. ulackfocus Dec 2, 2012

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    It's okay, you can like it. That's a very 70's look and most brands had nearly identical case shapes with similar bracelets.
     
  5. LouS Mrs Nataf's Other Son Staff Member Dec 2, 2012

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    No, not at all. I was thinking of that 50mm Type 20 MOntre d'Aeronef- it's a homage to a dashboard instrument with a table clock movement inside, but Zenith has managed to persuade people it is a wristwatch. And people are paying very big money for it...shows what I know.

    Here are some modeled on the wrist, including Mr. Stanley of Kiss, which brings out the full florid absurdity of the thing.

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  6. MMMD unaffiliated curmudgeonly absurdist & polyologist Dec 2, 2012

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    Oh yes, that thing. I think the lugs shouldn't overlap the edge of your wrist by more than a quarter-inch... just a personal rule I live by. But I'm no Paul Stanley.

    My pilot isn't that bizarre, really... just decidedly un-pilot-y.
     
  7. LouS Mrs Nataf's Other Son Staff Member Dec 2, 2012

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    And then Zenith does this odd thing on the new watches - it puts 'Pilot' in quotes, as if it is an ironic Pilot watch.
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    Which in fact it is, since no pilot has ever used the model or ever will, but desk pilots will.
     
  8. ulackfocus Dec 2, 2012

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    Geez, Paul Stanley looks about one bad night's sleep and a bottle of Jack Daniels away from morphing into Ronnie Wood or Keith Richards.
     
  9. ulackfocus Dec 2, 2012

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    What about desk diver pilots?

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  10. Gavin It's the quiet ones you have to 'watch' out for. Dec 2, 2012

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    Nice Pilots you have there Lous. Are those mainly manuals?
     
  11. LouS Mrs Nataf's Other Son Staff Member Dec 2, 2012

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    Without exception. As far as I know, there are no automatics in the (vintage) Pilot line.
     
  12. Gavin It's the quiet ones you have to 'watch' out for. Dec 2, 2012

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    Thanks Lous.
     
  13. Donut Dec 2, 2012

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    Not for the thin of wrist...

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  14. LouS Mrs Nataf's Other Son Staff Member Dec 2, 2012

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    Apologies, D, for the strongly worded post above. As you see, I haven't reconciled myself to the thing yet.
     
  15. Donut Dec 2, 2012

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    It's not an every day wearer.
     
  16. Privateday7 quotes Miss Universe Dec 2, 2012

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    The TV case model still have some succesful model going on...........think Nautilus of Patek line.
     
  17. MMMD unaffiliated curmudgeonly absurdist & polyologist Dec 2, 2012

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    No lug overlap. Perfectly acceptable. You gotta have the wrist for that thing.
     
  18. MMMD unaffiliated curmudgeonly absurdist & polyologist Dec 2, 2012

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    Totally agree. This is my poor man's Nautilus or Royal Oak. Or my poor man's Glashutte Original Seventies, which is the current upper-middle-class man's Nautilus. I hope Zenith had the decency to pay some royalties to Gerald Genta.
     
  19. LouS Mrs Nataf's Other Son Staff Member Dec 2, 2012

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    Oh we're going that way?
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  20. MMMD unaffiliated curmudgeonly absurdist & polyologist Dec 2, 2012

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    Yep, there's the Nautilus flange. Not quite porthole-ish enough to inspire a lawsuit, but close.