Are these IWCs legit?

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Hi,

Are these quartz IWCs legit?
I felt these movements were not typically what IWC would make. But then again, these are quartz.

Thanks

 
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Manuel orologi website sets off the alarms from my anti-virus software so be carefull. Never seen one like it - but IWC did make many small production variations - so hopefully more knowledgeable members can tell you more.
 
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Thanks, posted there.
You might want to edit your post there. You are showing an Omega quartz movement, not an IWC.
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IWC did make quite a few vintage models with tuning fork or quartz movements in the 1970s and 1980s.

Do you have a picture of the inside caseback of the second watch?

Not sure which one the caseback you have shown belongs to. It's a Ref. 3035, and the case serial number dates it to 1980 (DateYourIWC). Here's the official datasheet for it (which shows the black dial watch you have shown - the white dial one might be the same model, there was an enamel dial version for the 3035, too):

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The "outside overall-impression/design " looks OK for me. classic 70ies/80ies...
 
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IWC did make quite a few vintage models with tuning fork or quartz movements in the 1970s and 1980s.

Do you have a picture of the inside caseback of the second watch?

Not sure which one the caseback you have shown belongs to. It's a Ref. 3035, and the case serial number dates it to 1980 (DateYourIWC). Here's the official datasheet for it (which shows the black dial watch you have shown - the white dial one might be the same model, there was an enamel dial version for the 3035, too):

Thank you very much.
Here is the case back for the black dial one.
It is actually the same reference, 3035.

Mine has a 2369 caliber, which I suppose is just a version below 2370 indicated in the profile picture you've shared.

So I suppose this indicates the watch is likely legit.


But I am not able to find anything about these movements.

Btw, from where did you get the details for the 3035 watch?

 
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Thank you very much.
Here is the case back for the black dial one.
It is actually the same reference, 3035.

Mine has a 2369 caliber, which I suppose is just a version below 2370 indicated in the profile picture you've shared.

So I suppose this indicates the watch is likely legit.


But I am not able to find anything about these movements.

Btw, from where did you get the details for the 3035 watch?

My pleasure to help you out with this. Are these watches that you own? Or looking to buy? If the latter, be aware that there isn't much of a collector's market for these quartz pieces, so these would be strictly "buy to own and enjoy", not "I'm not sure about this and can always flip it later". That said, I like the design, especially the black one.

These detail pages come from an old catalogue that has been on the internet for a long time, thanks a bunch to the guy who hosts it - you can find it here:
https://www.gregsteer.net/IWC/IWC_Index.htm

To date your IWC, this is your adress of choice:
https://www.moeb.ch/dyIWC/

The second case serial says "1980" too, I think this is more or less the latest date it will show. But fits well in this case.

I don't know anything about the calibers 2369 and 2370. I know that IWC used some ETA calibers around this time - which they did refinish to a nice standard - but the google AI at least seems to think that the 2369 is a Girard-Perregaux movement. Girard-Perregaux were among the leading developers of quartz movements in Switzerland, very high quality at the time. These days, very old and hard to get replacement parts for, having a specialist who can repair them would be a bonus as the factory won't be able to help.
 
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My pleasure to help you out with this. Are these watches that you own? Or looking to buy? If the latter, be aware that there isn't much of a collector's market for these quartz pieces, so these would be strictly "buy to own and enjoy", not "I'm not sure about this and can always flip it later". That said, I like the design, especially the black one.

These detail pages come from an old catalogue that has been on the internet for a long time, thanks a bunch to the guy who hosts it - you can find it here:
https://www.gregsteer.net/IWC/IWC_Index.htm

To date your IWC, this is your adress of choice:
https://www.moeb.ch/dyIWC/

The second case serial says "1980" too, I think this is more or less the latest date it will show. But fits well in this case.

I don't know anything about the calibers 2369 and 2370. I know that IWC used some ETA calibers around this time - which they did refinish to a nice standard - but the google AI at least seems to think that the 2369 is a Girard-Perregaux movement. Girard-Perregaux were among the leading developers of quartz movements in Switzerland, very high quality at the time. These days, very old and hard to get replacement parts for, having a specialist who can repair them would be a bonus as the factory won't be able to help.
Thanks again. This is really helpful.
Actually I got the black dial IWC as part of a batch I bought specifically to get a vintage Heuer chronograph. The IWC and a vintage quartz Omega (198.0079) just came with it.

You are actually spot on regarding the GP movement. It happens that "GP" is inscribed in the movement but I didn't pay attention to it!

 
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Cheers, I appreciate the opportunity to learn more about IWCs from this time. It's not a well documented period, after IWC was sold in 1978, and collectors today mostly avoid quartz watches from this time. However, in 1980, Ref. 3035 would have been a pretty expensive, technologically advanced watch, and if you like the design (and if the bracelet fits), wear and enjoy it!
Just one more thing to note: the brown box shown in your first picture is original for the time. You don't see these very often.