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Are any of the Constellation cases big enough for a 29.6mm dial?

  1. tmw57

    tmw57 Sep 26, 2013

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    Hi,
    I have this nice looking Watchco Constellation dial and would love to find a case for it if possible. I believe it will fit some of the 500 series movements, yet I know that most of the cases that house these movements take a 27mm dial.

    Does anyone out there know if a vintage Constellation case exists that will fit this dial?

    thanks for any help front watchco connie.jpg rear watchco connie.jpg
     
  2. Privateday7

    Privateday7 quotes Miss Universe Sep 26, 2013

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    I can not answer, but that's one very nice dial..................
     
  3. tmw57

    tmw57 Sep 26, 2013

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    I should mention that I did read the 2 month old thread about an identical looking dial of the same size. But there was no mention of any cases that might fit. Perhaps Desmond will know?
     
  4. Hijak

    Hijak Sep 26, 2013

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    Ref. 2852 maybe? With a cal. 501 movement possibly?
     
  5. tmw57

    tmw57 Sep 27, 2013

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    Regrettably, my understanding is that a 2852 will not take a 29 mm dial.
     
  6. Sherbie

    Sherbie Sep 27, 2013

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    Well begs the question: who would go to the trouble of making a dial that doesnt fit in any Omega Connie case?

    follow the logic, and it suggests that either

    1) there MUST be a case out there that fits
    2) its a useful as a chocolate teapot ( or made for Franken thiefs)

    I hope its the former
     
  7. tmw57

    tmw57 Sep 27, 2013

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    me too!
     
  8. prostie1200

    prostie1200 Sep 27, 2013

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    Maybe the the dial has been made for a Gold Case and the movement has to have a retaining ring around its perimiter simular to this movement I recently purchased - it has a 29.9mm dial.

    ebay.co.uk/itm/Omega-automatic-movement-/300954519649?_trksid=p2047675.l2557&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEWNX%3AIT&nma=true&si=FNsOgrbA8FlPSPeQ80R7ohJRRus%253D&orig_cvip=true&rt=nc
     
  9. Apa

    Apa Sep 27, 2013

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    How about cal354? Crystal is 30, 2mm
    Ari
     
  10. ulackfocus

    ulackfocus Sep 27, 2013

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    If that dial had a case it would readily fit into, one of us would have bought them. All of them. I talked with another member here about a year ago about them. The reason they've been around for sale for so long is that there isn't a case that fits the 29 mm size.
     
  11. tmw57

    tmw57 Sep 27, 2013

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    Yeah, that's what I'm afraid of....

    So, why do they exist? Perhaps a bunch of mistakes that Watchco purchased?
     
  12. gatorcpa

    gatorcpa ΩF InvestiGator Staff Member Sep 27, 2013

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    This style of pie-pan dial wasn't used until the cal. 505 was introduced in 1957, so I don't think it will fit any of the bumper movements or cases.

    Something about it looks very Ref. 2852 about it. I do see that it could be measured at 29.6mm due to the lip around the dial. I suspect that's where the gold trim ring would fit.

    Until I had a watchmaker attempt to fit the dial in one of those cases and fail, that's what I would say.
    gatorcpa
     
  13. prostie1200

    prostie1200 Sep 27, 2013

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    Here is a 354 with gold infill ring and a 29.9mm dial - this combo came out of a 14K which the owner scrapped the crystal is there for size comparison it measures 34mm 354.jpg
     
  14. tmw57

    tmw57 Sep 27, 2013

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    Thanks Gator. And yes I have seen dials that are identical in 2852 cases. But I think that they have 27mm dials, or at least I recall reading that somewhere. And yes you are right that this dial was made (or the feet are positioned ) for a 505.
     
  15. tmw57

    tmw57 Sep 27, 2013

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    Thanks, this is interesting. I don't know if the feet are positioned to accommodate a 354. Can you tell me the location of the dial feet on the dial pictured?

    thanks
     
  16. MSNWatch

    MSNWatch Vintage Omega Aficionado Staff Member Sep 27, 2013

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    This is a 501/505 dial. I measured one I had in a 2852 and it was about 27.5mm. I used OP's photo and a piepan dial from a watch I own to illustrate the size difference - look at the length of the red lines.

    29mm dial:

    [​IMG]

    27mm dial:

    [​IMG]
     
  17. prostie1200

    prostie1200 Sep 27, 2013

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    The feet are 25mins past and 55mins to
     
  18. Stewart H

    Stewart H Honorary NJ Resident Sep 27, 2013

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    I have never seen an original dial that looks like that from the back. I would say that the dial furniture has been removed and re-applied therefore a re-finished dial.
     
  19. tmw57

    tmw57 Sep 27, 2013

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    Thanks MSN. I appreciate the education.
     
  20. tmw57

    tmw57 Sep 27, 2013

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    Thanks.