Apollo 11 50th Anniversary LE Speedmaster

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I might be interested in the 50th anniversary Apollo 11 LE Speedy if it came with a drop end chronograph hand... subtle touch delivering the chronograph in a lunar landscape themed cubic crater box ...

So the Tachym猫tre bezel is no issue anymore? 馃嵖
 
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Nope... the 50 years A11 must look like the 1969 version... A possible 50 years Alaska Project LE Speedmaster requires a 60-minute bezel 馃榿
 
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So this is what Alexander from WatchAdvisor posted in the comments section of a recently uploaded "Speedmaster beauties" review:

the Moonwatch will now get a new Master Chronometer certified caliber... then the mission is completed and all Speedmaster are powered by the new generation movements.

Not sure if this is a completely accurate statement, but Alexander seems to have a good relationship with Omega, at least based on some of the previous interactions/interviews I have seen with their executive staff.

So, if this new Speedmaster Pro caliber is really METAS certified, will it be a new automatic 3-dial chronograph caliber or just the existing 1861 with "upgraded" anti-magnetic materials?

As we saw this year with the 1869 on the Apollo 8 DSOTM, Omega are apparently being allowed to implement decorative and material changes to the "Moonwatch caliber". IMO a new automatic caliber is more likely.
 
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Am i the only one thinking that Omega will have a LE using one of the watches that they used during the production of first man? Which would mean a watch with the appearence of a 105.003 or 105.012.
 
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I can assure you the rumors aren't false. My AD took 3 deposits for $5000 from 3 different customers. Me being one of them
In Europe it seems to be that there are no deposits (I asked three AD鈥檚, three different countries), but the AD鈥檚 are taking names to the waiting lists...
 
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So this is what Alexander from WatchAdvisor posted in the comments section of a recently uploaded "Speedmaster beauties" review:

the Moonwatch will now get a new Master Chronometer certified caliber... then the mission is completed and all Speedmaster are powered by the new generation movements.

Not sure if this is a completely accurate statement, but Alexander seems to have a good relationship with Omega, at least based on some of the previous interactions/interviews I have seen with their executive staff.

So, if this new Speedmaster Pro caliber is really METAS certified, will it be a new automatic 3-dial chronograph caliber or just the existing 1861 with "upgraded" anti-magnetic materials?

As we saw this year with the 1869 on the Apollo 8 DSOTM, Omega are apparently being allowed to implement decorative and material changes to the "Moonwatch caliber". IMO a new automatic caliber is more likely.

No idea who Alexander or WatchAdvisor is, but I would take this all with a large grain of salt...
 
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As we saw this year with the 1869 on the Apollo 8 DSOTM, Omega are apparently being allowed to implement decorative and material changes to the "Moonwatch caliber".

Omega can do what they wish with the 1861 base, but in order for it to remain "flight qualified" they'll have to recertify it at least under the older NASA rules. Not sure how ESA would approach it - since it's more of a promotional partnership nowadays, they may just be concerned about exterior integrity rather than timekeeping under various conditions
 
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Omega can do what they wish with the 1861 base, but in order for it to remain "flight qualified" they'll have to recertify it at least under the older NASA rules. Not sure how ESA would approach it - since it's more of a promotional partnership nowadays, they may just be concerned about exterior integrity rather than timekeeping under various conditions
I haven't noticed a Speedmaster in ISS related photographs for a while now; today's astronauts tend to use the X-33 (which was developed in association with the ESA).
 
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...today's astronauts tend to use the X-33 (which was developed in association with the ESA).
With that said:
 
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I haven't noticed a Speedmaster in ISS related photographs for a while now; today's astronauts tend to use the X-33 (which was developed in association with the ESA).

They still wear them for launches and reentries, for photographic purposes it seems. But no, not on the wrist onboard.

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No idea who Alexander or WatchAdvisor is, but I would take this all with a large grain of salt...
Alexander Linz is a respected European watch journalist with decades of experience and seems to be very well treated by leading industry executives from the video interviews he has posted in the past (Omega, AP, Longines, JLC, Richard Mille...).

He has often had access to early Omega launches before some of the mainstream watch media. It would not surprise me if he got a bit confused with his English with his Speedy comments...but as he is fully aware of what METAS is and the current modern Speedmaster range (42mm 1861 Pro, Co-Axial 44.25mm...).

So I did take his words with a smaller grain of salt...otherwise I would have indeed just treated them as a generic speculative brain fart in a blog.

Ref. some of the other comments in the thread...I see no reason for Omega to kill off the 1861, not only because of the NASA certification, but also because of all the heritage associated with the caliber. There is clear demand for continuity with a 1861 "heritage" moonwatch and LE's ad infinitum.

But perhaps Omega have finally heard the punters and will be releasing a new 42mm sized case modern Speedy Metas certified et al., especially if they are increasingly focused on the smaller wrist Asian market? One only needs to look at Kern's new Breitling Premier B01 in a 42mm case size to see the current market trend at this price point...I had a quick glance at a few of these B01 Premiers at Houston Galleria and they looked significantly more compact than the current Speedy 44.25mm case offerings from Omega.

If Omega do put out a well designed, Metas certified, automatic, 42mm Speedy they will kill off sales of their current 44.25mm range...but Omega have been known to indulge in cannibalism in the past.

Well early days...and now we don't even have Basel in March as a target date to end the speculation!
 
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I see no reason for Omega to kill off the 1861, not only because of the NASA certification, but also because of all the heritage associated with the caliber. There is clear demand for continuity with a 1861 "heritage" moonwatch and LE's ad infinitum.

But perhaps Omega have finally heard the punters and will be releasing a new 42mm sized case modern Speedy Metas certified et al., especially if they are increasingly focused on the smaller wrist Asian market? One only needs to look at Kern's new Breitling Premier B01 in a 42mm case size to see the current market trend at this price point...I had a quick glance at a few of these B01 Premiers at Houston Galleria and they looked significantly more compact than the current Speedy 44.25mm case offerings from Omega.

If Omega do put out a well designed, Metas certified, automatic, 42mm Speedy they will kill off sales of their current 44.25mm range...but Omega have been known to indulge in cannibalism in the past.

I have been to 4 OB in China and there virtually no Speedmaster presence in the display cases. The exception was Shanghai, but I understand that is one of the largest OB. I do not speak Chinese, so I was not able to ask why this was the case. I did however ask if they had the snoopy, and they understood me. No Snoopy. My take away after seeing what was displayed is that the preference was for gold dress watches. Same with dive watches. Even at 42mm, it is still a large watch, at least over there.
 
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I have been to 4 OB in China and there virtually no Speedmaster presence in the display cases. The exception was Shanghai, but I understand that is one of the largest OB. I do not speak Chinese, so I was not able to ask why this was the case. I did however ask if they had the snoopy, and they understood me. No Snoopy. My take away after seeing what was displayed is that the preference was for gold dress watches. Same with dive watches. Even at 42mm, it is still a large watch, at least over there.

Great input. I suppose we should not be surprised that the Chinese are not huge fans of a watch celebrating NASA and USA accomplishments馃榾 The Japanese clearly do like Speedies, not sure about the rest of the region which has enormous diversity, but I imagine Speedies would be purchased in Singapore, Malaysia, Taiwan, South Korea? All speculation, but Omega might be launching a new Speedmaster that is not exclusively focused on the moonwatch heritage, which might actually make it easier to market to wider audience...
 
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Leave a deposit in the UK and you have a leaf ally binding contract to supply that item, if you don鈥檛 you breach the contract.

A Porsche dealer got done here on an RS, took a deposit, failed to supply, sued and had to stump up a huge amount of cash.
In my experience this is not true. I left a 拢7000 deposit on a trilogy box set on the morning of the Basel release and had verbal confirmation from the omega rep that it was ordered for me, only to be told 3 months later that I was NOT getting my purchase.The deposit is only a notice of interest not actually a partial pavement.
 
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In my experience this is not true. I left a 拢7000 deposit on a trilogy box set on the morning of the Basel release and had verbal confirmation from the omega rep that it was ordered for me, only to be told 3 months later that I was NOT getting my purchase.The deposit is only a notice of interest not actually a partial pavement.
*Payement.... Lol
 
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Bought my last brand new Speedmaster in 1998 as the new 1861 movement came out in a luminova dial chronograph... Pretty sure this was my last as I'll let the new ceramic coaxial lunar landscape dial fashion trend pass by... time to refocus & going to completely dig deeper into the use of other spacefarers' watches 馃が
 
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They still wear them for launches and reentries, for photographic purposes it seems. But no, not on the wrist onboard.

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That's a good picture showing the juxtaposition of the old and new Speedys in orbit and I think Samantha Cristoforetti was the first to wear the new X-33 in space.
 
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That's a good picture showing the juxtaposition of the old and new Speedys in orbit and I think Samantha Cristoforetti was the first to wear the new X-33 in space.

Yeah, that photo is quite apropos to the discussion, isn't it? But the point is, when they launch or reenter while wearing the IVA suits, they have Speedmasters strapped on. Again, I think it's mostly for the photo ops as they walk out to the launch vehicle or emerge from the reentry vehicle. This is a nice illustration of what's actually going on though.

Real point is, the Speedmaster is still the only chronograph certified for EVA and some astronauts still do wear them, and for Omega to change the Speedmaster Professional would either require recertification (which would be far too expensive for what is still a fairly niche product) or risk losing the marketing coup that having their products on the gauntlets of astronauts is. So I don't think we'll see any substantial updates to the core Speedmaster Professional beyond what they've already been doing - new bracelets, a suitcase full of goodies and extras, etc.
 
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Agreed. I don't think there will be any changes to the Speedmaster Professional at all; it has basically been the same for over 50 years for a good reason...