Any GMT Master 1675 connoisseurs around?

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Can anyone give me an opinion on this 1675? The patina looks really cool but i'd like to make sure it is genuine patina and not repainted. Here is the picture, this one is from 1972 and should be a MK 2 dial. Case condition looks very good, insert is certainly a service replacement, the rivet bracelet appears to be in good shape. Thank you!!
 
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Yes, agreed on the replacement insert unfortunatelly . Watch looks good. I do see how you'd be suspicious of the patina as it is very very even between hands and dots (which is unusual) The patina on the 1675 in my experience doesn't turn quite the level of yellow/orange as on the subs. Indeed even on the subs I am suspicious of overly present aging.

i would request more pics without the pure white background and see if the white balance may be a little off or the picture actually touched to enhance the effect. In this case if the lume was a little less creamy I would trust it more.

Case looks good if a little polished, see if you can get shots fro the side and back, that will show better if there is over-polishing

Now, all this said it comes to price, I would guess under 10 and perhaps under 9 for this one.

I am attaching pics of mine, it's 1969 and also considered in very good condition. Ive just taken the pics with my phone on natural indoor light, one pic against a white folio the other on some color background. Didn't bother to set the date and time for the pic in case you're wondering, the 1675 date set is a pain in the ass.
 
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Thanks guys! Thats a really cool one from 1969. The hardest thing to find when i've been looking is examples that haven't been way overpolished. Maybe I could source a faded insert later. "buenosdiasone" on Instragram has some really nice ones. I'm sure he won't mind me sharing his pic. It's interesting how they all fade a little differently. And rare to see fading to the blue side with little fading to the red side.
 
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Thanks guys! Thats a really cool one from 1969. The hardest thing to find when i've been looking is examples that haven't been way overpolished. Maybe I could source a faded insert later. "buenosdiasone" on Instragram has some really nice ones. I'm sure he won't mind me sharing his pic. It's interesting how they all fade a little differently. And rare to see fading to the blue side with little fading to the red side.
If that is the same watch then that looks much more like it should patina-wise. Also the polishing is much less aggressive which leads me to think it was also a result of photoshop enhancing the steel as it is also a little to vivid and white-ish. while on the photo above done outdoors it looks just about right and maybe in need of some cleaning (lower right) which is good. the crown-guard and the edge on that corner lug leads me to think it is not over-polished after all.

It's a good buy if the price is right, but an original 1675 insert may cost you.
 
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If that is the same watch then that looks much more like it should patina-wise. Also the polishing is much less aggressive which leads me to think it was also a result of photoshop enhancing the steel as it is also a little to vivid and white-ish. while on the photo above done outdoors it looks just about right and maybe in need of some cleaning (lower right) which is good. the crown-guard and the edge on that corner lug leads me to think it is not over-polished after all.

It's a good buy if the price is right, but an original 1675 insert may cost you.

Hi, no sorry it's not the same watch at all. I was just wanted to show people the faded insert on that watch which belongs to Seb who i met on the rolexforums.
 
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Ah, OK. The case seems fine but I do find the patina a little exaggerated and suspect. look at mine and Seb's. It's creamy, and under some light yellowy, but by no means radioactive liken this one is. So yes, I do find it suspect. Drop your inquiry at the Rolex Forum they may be able to guid you with much more detail.
 
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The seller told me "The dial is in perfect condition, I don’t know if it’s restored from someone"
 
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right, which is basically saying "anything goes, but if you find out it is re-painted don't hold me responsible." I wouldn't personally go for this one as you can find good examples at Bob's Watches, HW Milton and many others that have a clearer provenance.
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The seller told me "The dial is in perfect condition, I don’t know if it’s restored from someone"

Ah yes. The old Italian Patina look !
 
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Ah yes. The old Italian Patina look !

I've looked at examples of relumed dials and it almost always appears obvious when a dial has been relumed. Someone on rolexforums pointed out to me that its possible to alter the colour of the plots without reluming. You are right though, this watch is from an Italian dealer.
 
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I've looked at examples of relumed dials and it almost always appears obvious when a dial has been relumed. Someone on rolexforums pointed out to me that its possible to alter the colour of the plots without reluming. You are right though, this watch is from an Italian dealer.
Yes, it's not difficult to do, but in this case it's not only not necessary but it would be much better without it
 
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Most of the guys on rolexforums think it's OK.

"The lume looks correct. Generally relumed plots are given away by a lack of uniformity or waviness, a "coloring outside the lines" effect, or other inconsistency. From the photos you've shown, all looks correct."
 
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and from a very respected vintage 1675 dealer:

"Regarding artificially colored dials, I've had this conversation with many of my learned friends in the past, collectors that I trust, and we have no idea how anyone would alter the color on these dials. Vintage tritium is very, very fragile. Any liquid on them normally disintegrates the tritium. The dial on this GMT looks fine"
 
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Well, if the individuals placing these opinions are reputable I suppose it may be just fine. I'm not an expert so in just an opinion within a thousand. So consider the price then and see what else is around for that price and model.

If it's above 9 I would not take it. To me anywhere between 6500 and 7500 or 8 perhaps. But that's me. It's your money and your watch so if it checks your boxes go for it.

There are a few 1675 around that have more appeal to me on the balance between dial, bezel and case.

On the tritium retouching i do know it is done. Not sure how and what it does to the actual tritium but I've even seen threads around and have had conversations with people about it on specific pieces they had restored. Either way I for one am not qualified to give you a 100 % certainty. If the RF experts are then I'll gladly accept that.
 
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Maybe you should post this at the Vintage Rolex Forum and get an opinion from the experts in that community. The patina on the dial and hands are so evenly matched in color that one would think it has been refinished.
 
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Maybe you should post this at the Vintage Rolex Forum and get an opinion from the experts in that community. The patina on the dial and hands are so evenly matched in color that one would think it has been refinished.

Maybe you should read what has been written above.