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Any fans of the pin & collar system?

reverbtime
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A few years ago, I lost the pins + collars on my Orient Triton (now known as Neptune) when sizing it initially a few years ago. Couldn't find pins/collars sold separately, so had to buy the whole bracelet again recently. Luckily Orient USA had it in stock (since I want to keep everything OEM).

Lesson learned! Saw several tutorials on how to size p&c. Initially was pissed with the system. Now I love it! Might be a pain to resize, but it makes sense from an engineering background. It is a very secure system in the long term; even more over regular pins or screws, IMO. Properly installed, they should last a lifetime.

I know many neo-vintage SMP300 would use p&c too. Anyone else a fan of the p&c system?
 
JimInOz
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Just had to find new pins and collars for my Seiko Speedmaster (bracelet to case connection).
Took ages to find them. Eventually found some in Houston TX for USD$6 and got them shipped to Australia (SUD$20).
Took five weeks to get here after travelling from Houston to Elk Grove Village (Chicago) to Australia, then to The Netherlands and back to Australia.

Found it was very handy to have a Seiko bracelet tool to do the installation too.

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Also had to do bracelet sizing with a pin/tube bracelet for my Grandson. It's not a bad system but you need the right tools to make it easy.

Anyhow, I can now wear my Speedmaster without worrying about it falling off.

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reverbtime
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JimInOz JimInOz
Just had to find new pins and collars for my Seiko Speedmaster (bracelet to case connection).
Took ages to find them. Eventually found some in Houston TX for USD$6 and got them shipped to Australia (SUD$20).
Took five weeks to get here after travelling from Houston to Elk Grove Village (Chicago) to Australia, then to The Netherlands and back to Australia.

Found it was very handy to have a Seiko bracelet tool to do the installation too.

s-l1600.webp


Also had to do bracelet sizing with a pin/tube bracelet for my Grandson. It's not a bad system but you need the right tools to make it easy.

Anyhow, I can now wear my Speedmaster without worrying about it falling off.

1893069-8caea43516219250a40cb53866a95c7a.webp
Now I need that Seiko bracelet tool!
 
Evitzee
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A pin and collar system is very secure but can be difficult to size. Driving the pins out is sometimes hard, and you have to make sure you don't lose the collar once the pin is out. You definitely need a secure bracelet block, pin drivers, a hammer and good lighting. But the system works. And it's far better than the 'split pin' method that Omega and others used to use, that's really down scale, imo.
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Felix_La_PuBelle
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I’ve been putting off resizing an omega 1998/849 bracelet since I’ve never resized a pin and collar bracelet before. I have a brain lesion around hammering any part of a watch. Also one of the top hits on YouTube about resizing this model bracelet is more than a decade old by Archie Luxury that I can’t tell if it’s a joke or what.

But I do like the idea if it’s regarded as a more secure or sturdy system.

Once I quiet my mind and find my center I’ll let you know how it goes..
 
reverbtime
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Felix_La_PuBelle Felix_La_PuBelle
Also one of the top hits on YouTube about resizing this model bracelet is more than a decade old by Archie Luxury that I can’t tell if it’s a joke or what.
Fortunately, I did not get Archie as a top hit. Got Marc from Long Island Watch and Random Rob.
 
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reverbtime reverbtime
Fortunately, I did not get Archie as a top hit. Got Marc from Long Island Watch and Random Rob.

I think I’m getting Archie because I searched specifically for videos on the 849 bracelet but I just watched Marc’s tutorial and have renewed faith in humanity.
 
DoctorEvil
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Can't say I'm a fan as it's so easy to accidentally lose the tiny collar. Also need special tools. I much prefer the current screw and pin system that Omega uses. Makes sizing the bracelet so much easier.
 
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