An 'interesting' 120?

Dug · Nov 30, 2021

I read with interest the post on fake 120s,....very informative and helpful, especially to us newbies, thank you @uwsearch.
Thought this one, coming up in a UK auction on Friday, might be of interest. Don't think it could possibly be one of the aforementioned fakes!😀
If sellers are artificially ageing, to afford authenticity, then this seller would be guilty of going a little too far....looks like the full treatment!
BTW, currently at £220

Fatcat · Nov 30, 2021

Looks like a tired one but original for me , at this price no brainer

Dgercp · Nov 30, 2021

Agree, it's original. Wonder how dial looks under that beat up cystal?

JwRosenthal · Nov 30, 2021

Willing to bet there is a half way decent dial under there, but this would concern me

this isn’t going to be a diamond in the rough poly-watch and wear. This is gonna take some work and money.
Plus, you can see the lume has taken on moisture- particular at the crown and 9 side, so I have no doubt this has gotten wet inside. What may not be apparent on the dial now may become very apparent when the crystal is off.
This would be a big gamble- but considering people are willing to shell out $1.5k+ for an admitted fake- lord knows what this will go for.

Dug · Nov 30, 2021

JwRosenthal
Willing to bet there is a half way decent dial under there, but this would concern me

this isn’t going to be a diamond in the rough poly-watch and wear. This is gonna take some work and money.
Plus, you can see the lume has taken on moisture- particular at the crown and 9 side, so I have no doubt this has gotten wet inside. What may not be apparent on the dial now may become very apparent when the crystal is off.
This would be a big gamble- but considering people are willing to shell out $1.5k+ for an admitted fake- lord knows what this will go for.

Well noted and yes, probably a money-soak. A Glasgow based auction house though, so may well go for a low (ish) price.

JwRosenthal · Nov 30, 2021

Dug
Well noted and yes, probably a money-soak. A Glasgow based auction house though, so may well go for a low (ish) price.

If you can pick it up for under $1k, the cost of a full overhaul and clean up (provided the dial is pretty good and you can live with the case roughness- which is common and fine as it’s honest), you may have a decent daily for under $2k. The rusty parts are gonna cost, and we are only seeing the surface.

Dug · Dec 1, 2021

JwRosenthal
If you can pick it up for under $1k, the cost of a full overhaul and clean up (provided the dial is pretty good and you can live with the case roughness- which is common and fine as it’s honest), you may have a decent daily for under $2k. The rusty parts are gonna cost, and we are only seeing the surface.

Good advice, thanks.
Servicing is a good deal more expensive on this side of the pond though....perhaps £550 ($850) with parts, for this one. A poser😉

Davidt · Dec 1, 2021

I’d tread with caution here. Personally I love buying diamonds in the rough, a nice original dial hidden under a knackered crystal. However, given the stains on some of the movement there’s a reasonable chance the dial has damage and not just the crystal.

Dug · Dec 3, 2021

Went for £980 in the end, about $1300.
Tack on all the costs and extras and you must be rolling way past the 2k.
Guess someone has lined it up as viable though....would love to see the finshed article!

JwRosenthal · Dec 3, 2021

Dug
Went for £980 in the end, about $1300.
Tack on all the costs and extras and you must be rolling way past the 2k.
Guess someone has lined it up as viable though....would love to see the finshed article!

Considering that’s about what the fake ones are going for, looks like the winner didn’t do badly

An 'interesting' 120?

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