It was quite a watch buying journey for me. I picked up a 3570 speedmaster pro on watchexchange Reddit back in June. Buyer was very reputable what I would call an amateur dealer.

Keeping in mind this was at a height of covid when everything was on lockdown.

I get the piece and notice it’s running +60 seconds fast. Communicate with the seller and we work out an arrangement. (The listing said it was around +10 seconds per day) it also said it was from the mid 2000’s. Warranty card said April 2001.

He gave me a good amount of money back to put towards a service. Just got it back from the omega boutique. Took 6 weeks total.

The omega boutique was typical. The salesman said they send their pieces to Seattle, because of their reputation. I had to ask for the paperwork. The paperwork said Secaucus.

It looks great and they did a really nice job on it so fingers crossed

it’s running about -3 seconds so far. Time will tell

 

Nice. Is that an aftermarket bracelet?

 

Am I the only one that feels bad for the seller? You knowingly buy a 20-year-old watch, then complain and have the seller pay for your service when it probably only needed to be regulated.

 

The seller stated “ I send watches in when they need a service” this watch needed a service. He said it was running about + 10 secs per day.. when measured it was +60. I offered to split the cost, he offered more.

 

I also took it to a watchmaker and he said the amplitude was low and also suggested a service. He wanted the same price as omega

 

Yes uncle seiko flat link

 

I'm surprised you're getting -3. They usually set them around +3. What does the service warranty card say for an average daily rate?

 

-3 SPD is well within the expected range I think. My 1976 Speedy was running at +1.2 SPD when it came back from the Secaucus service center.

 

Well this is using the watch tuning app on my phone so it maybe not be 100% accurate. No service warranty card just the repair paperwork.

 

Is this what you used to tell the seller that it ran faster than their listing stated?

 

Yes. Watchmaker verified the same findings. I offered to send him a copy of the paperwork, he said don’t worry about it. I think this guy flips so many watches this wasn’t unusual for him

 

Huh. They used to give out a white card with the watchmaker initials, inspector initials, dates, and average daily rate. Anyone? Is that still true?

 

I think you got lucky to deal with a seller nice enough to do this. It wasn’t his responsibility to, unless there was a guarantee.

Any 20 year old watch without prior service will need to be serviced. Service costs are always advised to be factored in on top of the purchase price.

This means nothing. It’s the same as a seller stating “just serviced” without proof (receipt) of service, and should be taken with a grain of salt. Future service costs would still fall on the buyer, unless there was a guarantee of any sort. And to clarify, this isn’t criticizing you. The seller was very nice to offer this for you- you got lucky.

 

I understand your points. We both agreed to the terms and reached an agreement together. Yes, I was very lucky also.

 

It was when I had mine serviced last year.

 

Seller is apparently an honest man.
Whenever I see a inaccurate description in an Ebay listing I contact the seller and so far they always edit their description.
Its easy enough to get confused about details if selling numerous watches, some of the same name brand and model.

 

Rip tritium dial....

 

It wouldn't have had tritium anyway, it was from 2001. The OP has put a vintage style bracelet onto their modern luminova Speedy.

 

Sold in 2001... mfg was before