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Advice on Vintage Speedy Pre Moon?
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WYO_Watch
路I didn't even think to look at the 1039 bracelet.
It appears to add just one more layer to the mystery. It's market "68" which I believe is for the year? So this would match the movement serial #
It appears to add just one more layer to the mystery. It's market "68" which I believe is for the year? So this would match the movement serial #
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Ninja2789
路Thanks for the continued engagement on this thread OP. It's great to see the entire community getting together to suss out the details instead of having to deal with one-off "what's this watch worth?" questions.
Great 1039 bracelet by the way.
Great 1039 bracelet by the way.
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abrod520
路It's possible somehow that the movement was transplanted along with its bracelet, but unlikely. It's also possible that this watch had a problem in 1968 that required such extensive repairs that the movement was simply replaced, and the bracelet was replaced at that same service. However, I don't think either are original to the watch. As said, both are nice and have value
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WYO_Watch
路It's great to see the entire community getting together to suss out the details
I am also hopeful that some of the seasoned pros have enjoyed the mystery played out with another's dime 馃嵖 haha
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路路Prolific Speedmaster HoarderIt is entirely possible it was serviced alongside another speedmaster (a 145.012) and reassembled into the wrong case.
I have spoken to a retired watchmaker who told me how he serviced speedmasters in batches, and re assembled them not caring about getting the case backs right, so I suppose they could have messed up the movements
In those days they did not differentiate beyond caliber and movement.
I have spoken to a retired watchmaker who told me how he serviced speedmasters in batches, and re assembled them not caring about getting the case backs right, so I suppose they could have messed up the movements
In those days they did not differentiate beyond caliber and movement.
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路Update: After the work of @ndgal we were in our way to an extract. Unfortunately, the records are not available. The only thing that they were able to say was that it was delivered to the Virgin Islands in November of 1968.
While this is an obvious bummer, it does at least give some new information on the movement.
I am thinking it's time to pass this to someone who can afford to get the work done on it. I will likely be putting together a sales post for it this week with a link to this discussion. Any and all feedback would be greatly appreciated, thanks for all the help!
While this is an obvious bummer, it does at least give some new information on the movement.
I am thinking it's time to pass this to someone who can afford to get the work done on it. I will likely be putting together a sales post for it this week with a link to this discussion. Any and all feedback would be greatly appreciated, thanks for all the help!
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BenBagbag
路Update: After the work of @ndgal we were in our way to an extract. Unfortunately, the records are not available. The only thing that they were able to say was that it was delivered to the Virgin Islands in November of 1968.
While this is an obvious bummer, it does at least give some new information on the movement.
I am thinking it's time to pass this to someone who can afford to get the work done on it. I will likely be putting together a sales post for it this week with a link to this discussion. Any and all feedback would be greatly appreciated, thanks for all the help!
Did you try what @oddboy suggested (quoted below):
In any event, order an extract. If you submit it with case ref 105.012 and they say they don't have records, try again with case ref 145.012.
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Timmert
路Does that make a difference? (Honest question, did not know this!)
You'd think they just search for the serial number and it comes up with any details they have on file..?
You'd think they just search for the serial number and it comes up with any details they have on file..?
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Davidt
路Does that make a difference? (Honest question, did not know this!)
You'd think they just search for the serial number and it comes up with any details they have on file..?
There's a thought that if the extract shows the ref to be different to the one you supplied, they may not issue it. Possibly to avoid having to break any disappointing news to the owner.
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路I certainly appreciate the suggestion @oddboy and @BenBagbag, @Timmert
From the forwarded email I got from @ndgal it appears that only the serial number for the movement was given? I can double check with him and go from there.
From the forwarded email I got from @ndgal it appears that only the serial number for the movement was given? I can double check with him and go from there.
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路I am finalizing photos and a description for the sale add, but still working out a price. I am going to lose money, but the question is how much. Anyone willing to give me a value estimate? I can offer the bracelet as well to sweeten the pot.
I have contemplated throwing it in the bay with some good photos and an honest description, but 14% ebay and PayPal fees are rediculous.
I have contemplated throwing it in the bay with some good photos and an honest description, but 14% ebay and PayPal fees are rediculous.
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kreyke
路Is there a way to determine if the movement belongs to a speedmaster or seamaster, without an extract?
If you sell it as an assemble, it will be hard to move it. I think you might get more if you sell the bezel and case separately.
If you sell it as an assemble, it will be hard to move it. I think you might get more if you sell the bezel and case separately.
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WYO_Watch
路I think you might get more if you sell the bezel and case separately.
We only tried to run the serial number for an extract with the case it's in. So there is the option to run the serial with the newer case as well.
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路Maybe someone here is looking for some pieces of it, or just wants a good looking 321 with a DON
