I have been researching as fast as I can to assess whether the movement in this speedy case is correct. I can tell you that serial number starts 2544** which puts it 1966-1967. It doesn't have professional on the dial and I'm waiting to hear back in relation to case number. Should it have an earlier serial number?

My question is, did non professional dials run along side professional dials and therefore this movement with this serial number is okay? The watch is working but the chronograph buttons do not appear to work so I need to factor that in the price. Auction later this week. I think the rest looks okay but I'm only really starting my speedy journey so I'm feeling a bit shaky. I might let it go anyway as I don't feel I know enough yet but it would be nice to know the answer to my question anyway. I"m loading 2 rubbish photos from auction house. Any advice would be great.

 

i don't know yet, I've asked- waiting to hear.

 

Could be a 105.003 - 65 according Spacefruits www.speedmaster101.com site........

 

Likely a 105.003 by the movement number. Could even be a 145.003, though that won't show in the caseback.

Look decent enough. Dial and bezel aren't awesome, but for wear, it could clean up nice. Can't see the bracelet, but those are modern 617 endlinks. Not a deal breaker by any means, just good to know going in.

 

My 105.003 extract is attached. Serial is, as you can see, in the 24xxxxxx range. Relatively late, but I have hear of 105.003s in the 25M series.
Looks to me as if @Pahawi is dead on!
As you can see it dates later than you thought!

 

Thanks. a few more pics but auction house can't tell me case number as they will have to send it back to the watchmaker. Not a specialist watch auction.

 

Thanks. Another day sat at the computer. My other half is wondering what I do all day.

 

Just read an article by Fratello that the 105.003 was still supplied to official dealers until 1967 even though the professional model was already in existence so that sort of satisfies me. Thanks for your help everyone. Further advice and appraisals welcome. What do you think I should pay for it? I'm going to stick my maximum price in then walk away and see if I get it. I can't be tempted to bid more than its worth then.

 

base on double bevel, the case back is ok for a 105003 (or earlier) but can be aslo a 105012 caseback. I bet for a 105003 with only a replacement crown. Should be ok if the price is not too high.

 

My 105.003 was confirmed as being made in January 1968. Fratello is not entirely right then with 1967?
I think the 105.003 was also sold until a bit later. 1967 may have been the last year it was marketed, but it was obviously possible to obtain one also the following year - at least.

 

Thats the problem isn't all. We often need or want a definitive answer but all too often there isn't one.

 

wasn't the 105.003 the last of the straight lugs. I too tend to think its this model.

 

Yes, 105.003 was the last of the straight lugs.

 

105.003-65 was the last date stamp in the case-back but I think these were put together as late as '68 and sold into '69.

My 105.003 was produced in '67 with a 24,95x xxx serial.

 

Thanks for the info. I feel a lot more confident now.

 

I was talking about the caseback. In fact as We have no information of the stamped ref, There is a possibility to find a 105012 caseback ( double bevel) even with a strait lugs case. The possibility is low but already seen Many time.

 

with a non professional dial?

 

A caseback is a caseback .. Whatever the dial is... Someone could have switch it during service for exemple.
One more Time , it is just a possibility base on the pics, a small one , but could be the case. ( maybe i am
Not clear sorry, my english is not very good)

 

yes, cross purposes. Your saying it could be a franken (which is sort of a given or I wouldn't be asking for advice) but i'm trying to establish what it should be with a non professional dial and a movement with that serial number on straight lugs. No one has actually answered it- Did non professional dials end with one particular case number or cal so therefore could you walk in to a shop mid/late 60s and see both on the shelf to buy and at what year/cal case number should you never see a non professional dial. Info very welcome, though, thanks.