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Advice. Omega Genève ref. 166.0163

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Seller said everthing real except the strap and buckle. Price: 630 with delivery.
I am really new into this my only watch is apple watch 7, so I am really new to this stuff and i know there are great comunities about watches or PCs.
Thank you gents.
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Case: 166.0163 gold plated
Movement: caliber 1012 automatic.
Crown: signed original crown.
Cristal: signed plexiglás with logo omega.
Strap: good quality leather strap not signed.
 
LubosK.
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Or these. Pricewise more or the same.
Omega Seamaster 600 perfettamente funzionante
Revisionato da maestro orologiaio (FULL SERVICED)
Riserva di carica di 48 ore
Vetro senza graffi
Anno 1964 circa
Calibro 611
Tutto coevo con corona originale Omega
Diametro 34,5 x 41mm
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Davidt
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What’s your question? Are you asking if it’s nice/original/worth the price?

What’s the currency?
 
LubosK.
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Oh yes, if it nice and original time piece and if i am not overpaying or getting scammed. I am takling in euros. 600-640.
 
Davidt
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They both look original and genuine.

watch 1 is a 70’s model in gold plate (which is least desirable material) and has a 10xx model movement which is generally regarded as inferior to the earlier 5xx and 6xx. I’d say it’s worth half the asking.

watch 2 is a nicer model in my opinion. It’s a nice entry level seamaster with a bullet proof 6xx movement. However, the dial is damaged and I think this is actually the 32mm version, not the full size 34mm version. Again, I’d say actually value is more 300€ if indeed it is the smaller version with damaged dial.
If it was 34mm with undamaged dial the price would be more in line.
 
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Davidt Davidt
They both look original and genuine.

watch 1 is a 70’s model in gold plate (which is least desirable material) and has a 10xx model movement which is generally regarded as inferior to the earlier 5xx and 6xx. I’d say it’s worth half the asking.

watch 2 is a nicer model in my opinion. It’s a nice entry level seamaster with a bullet proof 6xx movement. However, the dial is damaged and I think this is actually the 32mm version, not the full size 34mm version. Again, I’d say actually value is more 300€ if indeed it is the smaller version with damaged dial.
If it was 34mm with undamaged dial the price would be more in line.
I have sent him a messege if its really 34,5 mm and not 32 which i would not like it too small. As least from the photo it may really be 34.5; the photo on the wrist. And yes dial is not super clean.
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I agree with @Davidt .

It very much depends on what you want but, if you have a look on eBay (buy now and/or auction) or Chrono24 (buy now) or this forum's 'Private Watch Sales' for Omega Seamaster or Omega Geneve, set a filter to the upper limit of your budget (remembering that you may have to pay tax, postage and possibly a service)and see what shows up.

I’d pass on the two you’ve posted. The top one is a little unusual and whilst the lower one is a more classic model, the dial is too badly damaged for my taste.
 
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Spruce Spruce
I agree with @Davidt .

It very much depends on what you want but, if you have a look on eBay (buy now and/or auction) or Chrono24 (buy now) or this forum's 'Private Watch Sales' for Omega Seamaster or Omega Geneve, set a filter to the upper limit of your budget (remembering that you may have to pay tax, postage and possibly a service)and see what shows up.

I’d pass on the two you’ve posted. The top one is a little unusual and whilst the lower one is a more classic model, the dial is too badly damaged for my taste.
I actually like the odd dial on the first one. But was not sure about it, therefore i asked. Also i have heard that models from 50s 60s were a bit better then later iterations. Edit.
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Davidt
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Ask for confirmation of the reference for the Seamaster. I think it’s the 32mm 136.019 rather than the 34mm 136.011.
 
LubosK.
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Ask for confirmation of the reference for the Seamaster. I think it’s the 32mm 136.019 rather than the 34mm 136.011.
Its said referenčné číslo 136.011 on his offerering, like i said sent him a messege.
Gentlemen thank you so much, you helped me a lot. Now i have some point of reference.
 
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Ok so if it is a 34mm 136.011 then the price would be reasonable if serviced and with a good dial. With the existing dial I’d say £250 and even then I’d simply preferred to pay more for a better example.
 
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Ok so if it is a 34mm 136.011 then the price would be reasonable if serviced and with a good dial. With the existing dial I’d say £250 and even then I’d simply preferred to pay more for a better example.
Hmm the price of 500-600e is not a problem, expesive yes, nice watch priceless, but all the sellers sell rubish for 350e, you can see that even those 2 are selling for 600e. I dont know everyone is selling for more than they are worth.
 
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I guess because frequently enough they snag a buyer willing to pay dealer premium for a sub par watch.

I always say you can have two the following;
1. Watch available now.
2. Watch in good condition.
3. Watch at a good price.

I’ll always pick 2 and 3 but it can take time. At the very least you should expect tongetb1 and 2, but plenty of people are content with simply option 1.
 
LubosK.
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I guess because frequently enough they snag a buyer willing to pay dealer premium for a sub par watch.

I always say you can have two the following;
1. Watch available now.
2. Watch in good condition.
3. Watch at a good price.

I’ll always pick 2 and 3 but it can take time. At the very least you should expect tongetb1 and 2, but plenty of people are content with simply option 1.
Yes your rules make sense. Just found this the lad asks a tad too much like 670 but the dial is nice for would pay 500-550. Cal 613, 135.011 handwinder edit: the bottom lid is from seamaster hah weird “D
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Davidt
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I think €670 is a lot for an entry level Geneve with manual wind movement. These can be had for €350 with a bit of patience.

Geneve’s can have Seamaster casebacks btw.
 
LubosK.
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I think €670 is a lot for an entry level Geneve with manual wind movement. These can be had for €350 with a bit of patience.

Geneve’s can have Seamaster casebacks btw.
Really? Even with a nice dial? One gotta be patient and wait.
 
Davidt
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A nice hand wound cal 601 Geneve with flawless dial and fully serviced sold on eBay a couple of months ago for £320. I was going to buy it but realised it would have just sat in my box getting no wrist time.
 
Davidt
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I don’t forget a Seamaster Automatic 165.002 is worth more than a manual wind 135.011
 
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