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gbesq
·Seems a bit expensive to me for its condition. I paid a little under $1,200 USD for my 167.005 less than a year ago.
Advice needed Omega Constellation
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lo1979
·Hi guys, after looking for more than one year for a good connie example I realise that in the States you are much more Lucky to find good example at good price. I m located in Italy where really nobody trade or has any kind of interest for these watches.
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myatt
·In Europe, I haven’t seen such a example for cheaper since a while. I’m not saying it’s a bargain, but I would say it’s the average price for such an example.
In my opinion, dial may be better in real life. Cas has seen some polishing, but still ok to me
I second this, more often than not - and especially if you can establish from decent pics that the dial is 8+ (say) on a 10 point scale - the watch turns out better in hand than in pics.
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nanjingcigaretes
·should it has 2 Ts because of the lumes on both hands and markers?
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ConElPueblo
·should it has 2 Ts because of the lumes on both hands and markers?
There is no such distinction: T's mean that there are lume and no Omegas have lume on only either hands or dial. Nor does a whole lot of other watches...
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Peemacgee
··Purrrr-veyor of luxury cat box loungersshould it has 2 Ts because of the lumes on both hands and markers?
Lots of Constellations with lume in both hands and on the dial only have one T, whilst suggestions have been made as to why I don't think a definitive reason has ever been put forward (possible just a dial manufacturer thing)
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Peemacgee
··Purrrr-veyor of luxury cat box loungersno Omegas have lume on only either hands or dial. Nor does a whole lot of other watches...
I would have agreed with you about this until that lengthy thread about an inherited 50s black-dialled Connie, which only had lume in the hands.
The watch owner's quote from Desmond:
“... replacement hands are a common feature of watch servicing because the sleeve often wears where it meets the cannon pinion, and the minute hand slips. So, it’s possible the hands may have been replaced at some stage, but I would incline to say they are original. However, the comment that lumed hands always went with lumed markers is absolutely incorrect. Many 504 models simply had radium inserts on the hands. I don’t see the hands on your watch as an issue, because they have been there a long time and contribute to the character and history of the piece, and so I would assume them to be original in the face of there being absolutely no concrete evidence that they are not and some evidence that points to them being original."
note: radium not tritium - and if there are other examples out there, other than the two black dials shown, they aren't very common
I'm still inclined to think that the lumed hands and non-lumed black dial were both special order -but that is possibly because I don't know the earlier references like Desmond does.
(the thread for reference
https://omegaforums.net/threads/can-anyone-offer-help-with-this-watch-please.118093/page-9 )
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bardamu
·Hi guys, after looking for more than one year for a good connie example I realise that in the States you are much more Lucky to find good example at good price. I m located in Italy where really nobody trade or has any kind of interest for these watches.
I'm in Italy too, let me say that probably you need to look for these better and more patiently 😉
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Edward53
·These are getting a lot harder to find in good condition and the price will only go up. This one might not be absolutely perfect but it is still a very good example. The price is perhaps at the higher end but not actually overpriced IMO. You might find a better one for the same money, or a similar one for less, if you wait long enough. Or you might not. Is there proof of service by a proper watchmaker rather than someone who just "cleaned and oiled" it? If so, and if you like it, go for it.
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KingCrouchy
·Hi guys, after looking for more than one year for a good connie example I realise that in the States you are much more Lucky to find good example at good price. I m located in Italy where really nobody trade or has any kind of interest for these watches.
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Verdi
·Honestly Italy is one of the countries in the world that is known for their watch collectors and the community behind it. Maybe you need to search better.
I concur. A lot of good vintage watches come from Italy, big market for watches.
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nanjingcigaretes
·There is no such distinction: T's mean that there are lume and no Omegas have lume on only either hands or dial. Nor does a whole lot of other watches...
I would have agreed with you about this until that lengthy thread about an inherited 50s black-dialled Connie, which only had lume in the hands.
The watch owner's quote from Desmond:
“... replacement hands are a common feature of watch servicing because the sleeve often wears where it meets the cannon pinion, and the minute hand slips. So, it’s possible the hands may have been replaced at some stage, but I would incline to say they are original. However, the comment that lumed hands always went with lumed markers is absolutely incorrect. Many 504 models simply had radium inserts on the hands. I don’t see the hands on your watch as an issue, because they have been there a long time and contribute to the character and history of the piece, and so I would assume them to be original in the face of there being absolutely no concrete evidence that they are not and some evidence that points to them being original."
note: radium not tritium - and if there are other examples out there, other than the two black dials shown, they aren't very common
I'm still inclined to think that the lumed hands and non-lumed black dial were both special order -but that is possibly because I don't know the earlier references like Desmond does.
(the thread for reference
https://omegaforums.net/threads/can-anyone-offer-help-with-this-watch-please.118093/page-9 )
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lo1979
·hi guys, for sure Ita
of course is one of the countries in the world that is known for their watch collectors and the community, unfortunately nowdays everybody it's all about Rolex AP and pateck. The only Omega is the speedmaster that have a good following.
Honestly Italy is one of the countries in the world that is known for their watch collectors and the community behind it. Maybe you need to search better.
of course is one of the countries in the world that is known for their watch collectors and the community, unfortunately nowdays everybody it's all about Rolex AP and pateck. The only Omega is the speedmaster that have a good following.
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Shabbaz
·I even have Italy as my standard ebay settings...
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ConElPueblo
·I would have agreed with you about this until that lengthy thread about an inherited 50s black-dialled Connie, which only had lume in the hands.
The watch owner's quote from Desmond:
“... replacement hands are a common feature of watch servicing because the sleeve often wears where it meets the cannon pinion, and the minute hand slips. So, it’s possible the hands may have been replaced at some stage, but I would incline to say they are original. However, the comment that lumed hands always went with lumed markers is absolutely incorrect. Many 504 models simply had radium inserts on the hands. I don’t see the hands on your watch as an issue, because they have been there a long time and contribute to the character and history of the piece, and so I would assume them to be original in the face of there being absolutely no concrete evidence that they are not and some evidence that points to them being original."
note: radium not tritium - and if there are other examples out there, other than the two black dials shown, they aren't very common
I'm still inclined to think that the lumed hands and non-lumed black dial were both special order -but that is possibly because I don't know the earlier references like Desmond does.
(the thread for reference
https://omegaforums.net/threads/can-anyone-offer-help-with-this-watch-please.118093/page-9 )
My take is that these are so uncommon that they are probably special orders or later additions.
