advice needed for a suveran

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jeppe888

·Dec 3, 2021

hi, i am considering purchasing this omega suveran. but i could really need a second opinion.
to the best of my knowledge its an original dial but it´s of course damaged but i can live with that.
the crown is missing and the owner has therefore no clue whether the watch works or not but i am willing to take a gamble on that.
but how easy is it to find a new crown (do not have to be original) and put it in place?
feel free to mention any other things i should be aware of, it would really be appreciated.
thanks in advance

 

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hejsam

·Dec 3, 2021

These crowns was not signed so finding a replacement crown would not be to difficult.

More worrying is thats its not in fact a Suverän, the caseback is not signed as all Suveräns are.

In best case its a ref 2383 which share the case with Suverän.

 

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jeppe888

·Dec 3, 2021

thanks a lot for the help, it´s a great point.
i will find another one 😀

 

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MtV

·Dec 3, 2021

Hands also have nothing to do with the ones intended for a Suverän.

I liked the one you sold here a few weeks ago more.

 

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LesXL

·Dec 3, 2021

MtV

Hands also have nothing to do with the ones intended for a Suverän.

I liked the one you sold here a few weeks ago more.

Agreed with the hands... Depending on the price, it could still become a nice little project, just not a Suveran one.

 

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jeppe888

·Dec 3, 2021

LesXL

Agreed with the hands... Depending on the price, it could still become a nice little project, just not a Suveran one.

if i should go for it, how much would you offer? (its an auction)
i really like the green color so i might not be that important its not a suveran

 

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randomdude

·Dec 6, 2021

No crown, needs new glass and unknown movement condition. Personally I’d pass on it, but if you want a project watch, it might be a good option. I have nowhere near the experience that most have here, but I would be in the $100-$130 range at auction. That’s just an opinionated guess. Most may call me crazy. My wife certainly does.

 

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felsby

·Dec 7, 2021·I don't see any option in settings or profile

hejsam

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More worrying is thats its not in fact a Suverän, the caseback is not signed as all Suveräns are.
In best case its a ref 2383 which share the case with Suverän.

I got a ref. 2400-2 with cal. 30T2PC and a dial and similar caseback like the OP's watch, from 1944. It is identical to a Suverän, including the reference number - apart from the caseback. What should we call it?

 

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tdn-dk

·Dec 7, 2021

There are 3 versions of casebacks for the 2400 Suverän

 

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felsby

·Dec 7, 2021·I don't see any option in settings or profile

tdn-dk

There are 3 versions of casebacks for the 2400 Suverän

Thanks, Thomas!
But how should we categorize a blank ref. 2400-x caseback?

 

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tdn-dk

·Dec 7, 2021

felsby

Thanks, Thomas!
But how should we categorize a blank ref. 2400-x caseback?

Never seen a blank one before, are you sure it have 2400 stamped inside?

 

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felsby

·Dec 7, 2021·I don't see any option in settings or profile

tdn-dk

Never seen a blank one before, are you sure it have 2400 stamped inside?

 

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tdn-dk

·Dec 7, 2021

felsby

How does the back looks like, could it have been polished away?

 

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hejsam

·Dec 7, 2021

felsby

I have never seen a 2400 with blank caseback either, can you please share some photos?

 

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felsby

·Dec 7, 2021·I don't see any option in settings or profile

Unfortunately no outside caseback photos on the phone but it looks exactly like the OP Caseback apart from the inscription 😀

 

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felsby

·Dec 7, 2021·I don't see any option in settings or profile

Despite the heavy patina, it may be a redial. I have seen a family photo from 1945 where the dial is white!

 

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tdn-dk

·Dec 7, 2021

Maybe there is a blank version also? First time for me, maybe they have used the normal caseback from the 2383 😀

 

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hejsam

·Dec 7, 2021

felsby

Unfortunately no outside caseback photos on the phone but it looks exactly like the OP Caseback apart from the inscription 😀

Very interesting if its indeed a 2400 with blank back and not just polished.

I'm guessing its not impossible that Omega used some casebacks from the 2400 to fit the 2383 since they share the case and that the Swedish text was applied later on in the process than the reference number.

Do you know if the 2383 caseback fits the 2400 case and vice versa @tdn-dk?
And therefore the case and caseback is exactly the same except the reference number and Swedish text on the back.

 

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tdn-dk

·Dec 7, 2021

I think they used the 2383 case for the 2400, but cant say for sure.

 

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Maskelyne

·Dec 12, 2021

I also think they dit that, and I have never seen a 2400 with a blank caseback. A picture would be very appreciated. And a worlds first - I think.
Ref 2383 to the left on the picture.