Advice for considering this 167.005

deebskeebs · Thurs. 12:24am

Hi all, recently discussed with an owner of potentially purchasing this piece from them. I am awaiting further pictures of the internals to verify authenticity using existing resources, but wanted to get your opinion on the quality of the front dial/case condition, as well as price range (assuming internals are authentic). It is solid gold, though not sure if 14k or 18k

Thank you!

myouss · Thurs. 12:37am

deebskeebs
Hi all, recently discussed with an owner of potentially purchasing this piece from them. I am awaiting further pictures of the internals to verify authenticity using existing resources, but wanted to get your opinion on the quality of the front dial/case condition, as well as price range (assuming internals are authentic). It is solid gold, though not sure if 14k or 18k

Thank you!

It’s more of a cinematic photo, but it shows correct crown, signed crystal, a nice clean pie pan, and that the dog legs retain some geometry. All seems original to me.

You’d need better pictures to better ascertain case condition, solid gold examples have often seen polishing at some point in its life. Case looks like it needs to be cleaned, looks to me like some tarnishing is present etc. Maybe someone else can chime in here.

As for whether it’s 14kt or 18kt, pop off the caseback and you’ll have your answer. I believe these came in both.

dsio · Thurs. 3:47am

Hour indices are a bit far in from the dial furniture rather than touching

Peemacgee · Thurs. 5:37am

dsio
Hour indices are a bit far in from the dial furniture rather than touching

I was going to say the same thing- but this dial has relatively unusual furniture that doesn’t intrude onto the central plain as much as the more common rectangular indices do.
I was going to page @hoipolloi for his input.

It would help if the pic was straight on the - @deebskeebs please ask for more images - but I can’t fault the script except perhaps that the central ‘O’ in CHRONOMETER isn’t narrowed as some are.
If it’s a redial it is quite splendid.

This looks like an early 167.005 - sharp pie pan edge, no Ts and the darkened lume looks like it may even be radium.
The movt serial number will be quite important for this watch.

Quite nice case - which will clean nicely (and easily) if that is what the OP wants - in today’s febrile gold market the difference between 14k and 18k gold will be significant.

Passover · Thurs. 1:16pm

Another early 167.005 with the same dial furniture for comparison

Serial is 19981918

Passover · Thurs. 2:08pm

Passover
Another early 167.005 with the same dial furniture for comparison

Serial is 19981918

Not my watch BTW...

deebskeebs · Thurs. 2:52pm

Thank you everyone for the insightful remarks! What would you estimate would be a ballpark price for a watch in this condition? Supposing it has genuine parts inside

Peemacgee · Thurs. 2:56pm

Gold price has gone mad.
Pie pan price has gone mad.
Bad time to buy a watch like this.

As above big difference between 14k and 18k.

Advice for considering this 167.005

deebskeebs

myouss

dsio

Peemacgee

Passover

Passover

deebskeebs

Peemacgee

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