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Advice for a newbie please. Omega Speedmaster 145.014

  1. lukee May 31, 2018

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    6F5A107C-DBA8-4EC9-ADFD-2ADC47DD09B9.jpeg 903422BF-2572-4D8F-A66C-93BE09CA874E.jpeg A501247A-F261-4295-9774-BCCC59085204.png 7739A79C-4BCE-4402-B033-283FBC473677.png 3409279B-13E4-4970-9490-48097618A079.png 128A6190-7B6E-473E-BB2B-C7E766709043.png Hi there,
    I’m a novice watch enthusiast and have been researching the Omega Speedmaster Mark II and really like the Ref 145.014. I’ve found one which seems ok to me. A forthcoming online collector who answered all my questions. States original parts, ownership history unclear.
    Has a video of the watch available, demonstrates full functionality and has sent photos. I was hoping for some expertise/guidance.
    I presume the 861 movement can be readily serviced despite the age?
    Verbal report only of a recent service though.
    There is no bracelet available.
    Asking 1590 euro or $2488.00 AUD
    Based on my limited information here can anyone provide thoughts or advice, pursue or steer well clear. Thanks 6F5A107C-DBA8-4EC9-ADFD-2ADC47DD09B9.jpeg 903422BF-2572-4D8F-A66C-93BE09CA874E.jpeg
     
  2. padders Oooo subtitles! Jun 1, 2018

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    The lift angle of the 861 should be set lower than the default 52deg. Can’t remember what it is exactly but it is lower. What this means is that the trace you show actually has a rather less amplitude than shown, 230deg maybe and thus the movement may be not all that healthy. I would as ever assume the claims of a recent service are bs. Without paperwork they invariably are.
     
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  3. padders Oooo subtitles! Jun 1, 2018

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    You could look up the 861 angle and ask him to set the machine properly which will result in a noticeably lower amp reading. You can use that as evidence that a service is needed and negotiate on that basis.
     
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  4. AveConscientia Jun 1, 2018

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    Your profile picture looks as if (I assume that is you ) you are looking into my soul.
     
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  5. JimInOz Melbourne Australia Jun 1, 2018

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    Lift angle for Lemania 861 is 50º.
     
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  6. padders Oooo subtitles! Jun 1, 2018

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    @JimInOz How did you use the degree symbol? I never can find it!
     
  7. JimInOz Melbourne Australia Jun 1, 2018

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    It's just a keyboard shortcut - option 0 (Mac).
     
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  8. moorey Jun 1, 2018

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    &z4Ω
     
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  9. Delbok Jun 1, 2018

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    I would wait for another good example of Mark II it is not a rare chronograph so you will find better opportunities IMO
     
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  10. lukee Jun 1, 2018

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    Thanks everyone for your feedback so far. I’ll hold off and keep looking
     
  11. omegaswisst Jun 1, 2018

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    Hi @lukee

    The Speedmaster Mark II is great reference. Good luck with your your search..
     
  12. lukee Jun 1, 2018

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    Thanks. It’s a bummer, I thought this watch was a goer. But hey, that’s why I posted here to get some good advice.
     
  13. omegaswisst Jun 1, 2018

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    You might also consider doing a 'title search' for speedmaster mark 2 on this forum. It should bring up some interesting reading.
     
  14. lukee Jun 1, 2018

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    Cool, thanks for the tip
     
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  15. Gurn Jun 1, 2018

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    Good luck with the search.
     
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  16. Archer Omega Qualified Watchmaker Jun 1, 2018

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    If that's had a recent service, then I would not use the seller's watchmaker!