Admes Genève, thoughts?

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Mafkees

·Oct 6, 2019

Hello,

I acquired this watch earlier today at a watch convention in The Netherlands. I didn't know the brand, it just caught my eye and I decided to buy it based on its quality, which I could tell from the naked eye. It features a stainless steel gold capped case, a screw down caseback and it houses an ETA cal. 1124 movement.

All in all it's in remarkable condition with no wear (only some minor scratching, which is to be expected) to the gold cap and a - dare I say it - a mint condition gilt dial. The dial pattern is remarkable. It's not waffle, it's not honeycomb ... I'm not sure what to call it. Any suggestions?

Once back at home, I took the time to google around a bit but I wasn't able to find out much at all about this brand's history. Does anyone have some information regarding this brand and are there OF members with an Admes of their own?

 

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Canuck

·Oct 6, 2019

In order to provide you with meaningful information about your watch, we really need to see what is “under the hood”, and possible shots of both sides of the case back. Mikrolisk has info on this maker, but I am unable to show a screen shot of the listing.

 

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Mafkees

·Oct 6, 2019

Canuck

In order to provide you with meaningful information about your watch, we really need to see what is “under the hood”, and possible shots of both sides of the case back. Mikrolisk has info on this maker, but I am unable to show a screen shot of the listing.

It houses ETA cal. 1124.
The inside of the caseback is blank.
The exterior has serial 287803.

Dial video for documentation (and showoff) purposes.

Edited: Oct 6, 2019

 

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Canuck

·Oct 6, 2019

The Ranfft archive shows the Eta 1124. The watch is likely mid to late 1960s, and appears to be in decent condition.

 

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bubba48

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Mafkees

·Oct 10, 2019

Thanks for weighing in, folks. I picked up the watch back from the watchmaker today after a full service. Turns out there is an AS 1124 movement and not an ETA like I had anticipated.

Ranfft dates that movement as early as the 1940s. Does anyone have a clue about the production ranges? http://www.ranfft.de/cgi-bin/bidfun-db.cgi?10&ranfft&0&2uswk&AS_1124

 

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Vitezi

·Oct 10, 2019

Now you need to find an Indimatic to pair it with...

 

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Dan S

·Oct 10, 2019

Mafkees

Does anyone have a clue about the production ranges? http://www.ranfft.de/cgi-bin/bidfun-db.cgi?10&ranfft&0&2uswk&AS_1124

Not sure what you are asking here. How many movements were made? When it was made?

 

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michael22

·Oct 11, 2019

Looks nice.

 

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Mafkees

·Oct 11, 2019

Dan S

Not sure what you are asking here. How many movements were made? When it was made?

Sorry, what I meant to ask is how long this movement was used for. Based on its appearance it seems unlikely to be a 1940s watch, in my opinion.

 

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JimInOz

·Oct 11, 2019·Melbourne Australia

Adolph Schild or A. Schild S.A. was an ebauche or movement manufacturer who made many many thousands of blank calibers for hundreds of watch brands.

Unlike Omega, Breguet, Longines etc, I'm not aware that they kept an archive.
Even if they did, the ebauches were simply sent to major houses so unless these records have been kept and documented, the movement is just "from the late 1940s/1950s".

 

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Dan S

·Oct 11, 2019

Mafkees

Sorry, what I meant to ask is how long this movement was used for. Based on its appearance it seems unlikely to be a 1940s watch, in my opinion.

Is the movement shock-protected?

 

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Mafkees

·Oct 11, 2019

Dan S

Is the movement shock-protected?

Yes, it is. The dial also reads 'Incabloc'. I will try to post a picture of the movement after the weekend.

 

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Dan S

·Oct 11, 2019

Most likely 50s then.

BTW, I note that the gold printing is painted on top of the black paint, which is not generally the way gilt dials were made, as you probably know. This is particularly apparent in the high resolution images of the markers within the sub-dial.