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Thank you very much ! It is true that the "Fear of missing out" can strike the newcomer and it's important to keep in mind what you just said : there’s no shortage of vintage Omegas. It's easy to buy, very difficult to sell. Even if the decision that pushes to buy is not to invest, it seems important to take that into consideration.

It’s can be good to remember that. When I first started I was frantic about finding what I wanted, convinced that if I didn’t buy soon, all the vintage models I was looking for would shorty disappear from the market. That isn’t the case, there’s always another watch.

I also think the current mindset around investment, is the wrong way to look at things, particularly for vintage Omegas; Don’t worry about whether prices will increase in future. Instead concentrate on knowing the detail about the references you’re interested in and buy a good example at a good price. This obviously takes time. The alternative is to buy from a trusted and reliable dealer where you offset your time by paying a premium.
 
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I don't know if it's a reference or if watches are systematically over priced in that site, but there are some Omega with Breguet numerals in chrono24 and they are priced around 800e
 
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Davidt Davidt
It’s can be good to remember that. When I first started I was frantic about finding what I wanted, convinced that if I didn’t buy soon, all the vintage models I was looking for would shorty disappear from the market. That isn’t the case, there’s always another watch.

I also think the current mindset around investment, is the wrong way to look at things, particularly for vintage Omegas; Don’t worry about whether prices will increase in future. Instead concentrate on knowing the detail about the references you’re interested in and buy a good example at a good price. This obviously takes time. The alternative is to buy from a trusted and reliable dealer where you offset your time by paying a premium.
Of course, it takes time but I personally love it ! You have to be passionate about it. Otherwise, if you always buy from professional dealers 1) it loses its fun and 2) you are not really a passionate collector, you are a watch buyer, which is not dishonorable, it's just another experience.
 
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Davidt Davidt
It’s can be good to remember that. When I first started I was frantic about finding what I wanted, convinced that if I didn’t buy soon, all the vintage models I was looking for would shorty disappear from the market. That isn’t the case, there’s always another watch.

I also think the current mindset around investment, is the wrong way to look at things, particularly for vintage Omegas; Don’t worry about whether prices will increase in future. Instead concentrate on knowing the detail about the references you’re interested in and buy a good example at a good price. This obviously takes time. The alternative is to buy from a trusted and reliable dealer where you offset your time by paying a premium.

I agree but considering everyone's first Omega's, I don't think there's any strong reason to push him away from these watches - you learn by experiencing

With this said, the 166.041 is missing at least one case clamp, this is missing:
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It's like $20 on eBay with the screw and not easy to find the correct one
 
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I’m not for a second saying don’t buy either of these watches. Personally I think there’s better examples out there for €400 but the prices aren’t ridiculous so if the OP likes them, he should go ahead.
What I am saying is don’t buy with an eye on investment and make sure you know what you’re buying.

If cost is an issue, the way most people lose money on vintage watches is by paying a noob tax or pebble dashing many models when they first start out and end up selling numerous watches for a loss. Of course there is lots of fun to be had by finding your niche by owning and possibly selling lots of watches, but if you don’t buy right, this can cost a lot of money.
 
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This is my Geneve, it too had the rotor rubbing against the caseback. My watchmaker tighten the clamping screws and problem solved. She said that the 565 movement was one of the best movements Omega made. If you like it buy it, if you want a perfect collection of rare and pristine Omagas, buy something else. In my uneducated opinion.
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Why not start collecting Geneves? There are many fun and beautiful refrences with Geneve on the dial to be had at a reasonable price.
 
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Talking about nice vintage Omegas at 300-400e, there is also this one (very classic) at 300e. I wonder if the movement is in good shape though...
 
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The movement looks ok. Bear in mind that’s a 31mm watch so very small by today’s standards.

Most 60’s men’s Omega watches are 34mm, very occasionally 36mm, with the sports Speedmaster and Seamaster 300’s at 40-42mm.
 
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The movement looks ok. Bear in mind that’s a 31mm watch so very small by today’s standards.

Most 60’s men’s Omega watches are 34mm, very occasionally 36mm, with the sports Speedmaster and Seamaster 300’s at 40-42mm.
Thank you so much ! It says in the add that the case diameter is 34mm without the crown though... Where do you see that it measures 31mm ?
 
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Thank you so much ! It says in the add that the case diameter is 34mm without the crown though... Where do you see that it measures 31mm ?

Actually I might be wrong there. Generally the 34mm Seamaster 600’s/Geneves have a movement holder/ring around the movement to allow it to fit in the 34mm case. In the smaller 31/32/33mm cases no movement holder is required.
However, a quick google for this reference shows some people listing them as 33mm and some as 34mm.

Best to check with the seller.
 
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Hey everybody !

I followed your advice and I continued to research the various vintage Omega models to determine which one or ones caught my eye the most.

I came to the conclusion that 1) I like patinas (I'm a bit extravagant, hence my attraction to the gold model with Breguet numerals, hehe) and 2) I like Seamasters and the rather vintage and sleek designs.

So, I found this model that meets my taste and that seems to me, frankly, very beautiful.
It has just been serviced, which gives me some confidence.
I would like to get it for 450-500e, what do you think?

Thank you so much for your advice and help for a beginner like me!
 
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The pics are unfocused and it is hard to tell, but it is a bad looking damaged dial. It may also be a redial, but without better pics...I would pass.
 
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