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A simple survey. If you own a Speedmaster Professional 105.012, what year(s) is the caseback?

  1. gemini4 Hoarder Of Speed et alia Mar 7, 2015

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    I'll wager that most will be 1965 (most plentiful) and 1966 (unique case) and a few 1963 (first Professional dial, first protected crown and pushers) BUT hardly any 1964.
     
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  2. dsio Ash @ ΩF Staff Member Mar 7, 2015

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    66-CB (Not all 66's are CBs with the weird case most are HF)
     
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  3. X350 XJR Vintage Omega Aficionado Mar 7, 2015

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    66-HF
     
  4. RawArcher Measures thread drift on the Richter Scale Mar 7, 2015

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    66 HF here
     
  5. Davidt Mar 7, 2015

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    66 - CB case.
     
  6. MikiJ Likes songs about Purple spices Mar 7, 2015

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    This speaks for itself :)
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  7. gemini4 Hoarder Of Speed et alia Mar 7, 2015

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    I see a trend forming
     
  8. scruffy Mar 7, 2015

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    65-HF

    also, hi! :)
     
  9. wwhntr Mar 7, 2015

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    65
    66-CB
     
  10. gemini4 Hoarder Of Speed et alia Mar 7, 2015

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    PRELIMINARY RESULTS

    105.012-66 = 6
    105.012-65 = 2

    Plenty of districts still have not reported in.
     
  11. aapinen Mar 8, 2015

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    65-HF (now with a broken main spring :unsure:)
     
  12. richardew Mar 8, 2015

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    105.012-66 CB x 2 :cool:
     
  13. Tritium Mar 8, 2015

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    66-HF
     
  14. speedy4ever Moonwatch Only Author Mar 8, 2015

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    Currently
    -63
    -63
    -65
    -66CB

    Previously owned:
    -63
    -64
    -65
    -66hf
    -66cb
     
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  15. dsio Ash @ ΩF Staff Member Mar 8, 2015

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    ^ Now you know where all the -63s went
     
  16. Spacefruit Prolific Speedmaster Hoarder Mar 8, 2015

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  17. gemini4 Hoarder Of Speed et alia Mar 8, 2015

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    Thanks for all the participants.
    I suppose I should answer my own survey

    1963
    1964 (I'm so far the lone survey participant in present ownership of this reference)
    1965
    1966 CB

    I thought I had all the casebacks covered but I didn't realize that HF case was also made in 1966. I thought CB had all the cases that year.

    I recently bought a1964. It was hard to locate. Am I correct in calling it "rare". It seems that there was a healthy number of movement serial numbers which could have been installed in the 105.012-64. Did most of those movements find their way into the 105.003?

    My other question is why the 105.012-63 is not more popular among collectors. The first Professional dial, the first asymetrical case with pusher and crown protection. Is it the first T SwissMade T dial as well. It's movement serial number precede the 105.003-63. It would appear the the 105.012-63 was produced first and was a short run of only 3000 watches (20.520xxx - 20.522xxx)

    The 105.012-63 has many firsts but, in collectibility, seems to be overshadowed by the 105.012-66 CB and its special case.

    Opinions?
     
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  18. speedy4ever Moonwatch Only Author Mar 8, 2015

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    You are not correct on the last point: 63 is popular but simply hard to catch, thus very few have it, whereas there are tons of 66 CB and HF, hence many collectors have it and talk about it in the forums.
     
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  19. Davidt Mar 8, 2015

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    Good question.

    I assume that the first half of the reference is the most important when said ref is available over several years. Especially when there aren't any significant cosmetic differences.

    So unless a collector wants an example from every year (let's be honest, why wouldn't you?!), for most people, any HF cased 105.012 will suffice. if the later models are more plentiful, you're more likely to find one of those in good condition and that will probably be the deciding factor.
     
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  20. dsio Ash @ ΩF Staff Member Mar 8, 2015

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    Interesting, so the production started slow and ramped up to a peak in 66?