Their response -
"We did not put it was a real watch. That’s what preview is for, we liquidate seizure items and know nothing about the items up for auction. Take care. "
My response -
So now you’re admitting it’s a fake item you are auctioning. Knowing it’s a fake and putting the note “not authenticated” doesn’t put you in the clear. Should I start listing the federal laws and then look up the state laws you’re violating?
Their response -
Mr if you don’t want it don’t buy it. I don’t know anything about any items. Take care. I don’t know a watch from a carpet to a coin. I get people like you all day trying to do these things and we don’t know if you’re legit or not. Either way base your bidding on your actual preview that way you know what you’re getting. Thanks
Which at that point well... I am who I am....
"I noticed you have pulled the item that is clearly a fake to anyone with minimal knowledge, which I assume you would have considering the business you are in. Also, I just checked Washington state laws, pawns and auction houses are legally required to do due diligence, and additional fines can be levied if it is shown that they were given notice of an item being counterfeit and ignored the good faith notice. But I am sure you know that as that is your business. Do you need me to pull the state regulations for your line of work and the applicable state laws? I am sure you do not want fines levied against your business or potential jail time for yourself.
Some nice highlights to help you if you are not aware -
Washington state code:
9.16.030 and
Section 9.16.035 which would mean you are fined 3x retail of the fake piece, which in this case would be 18 thousand or so for that piece.
Federal Code:
18 USC 2320 - max fine of 2 million and up to 10 years in prison for knowingly selling fake items.
I'm not even going to go into the reward money I can get for reporting you.
Talking down or calling someone mister in a demeaning way, will not win you friends, esp if those people are legit watch sellars and are sickened by bottom feeders selling fake crap knowingly and making the sale of all items questionable, even those people who do do minor due diligence on items. You were given a good-faith notice of a fake item for sale, it is you that got his metaphorical panties in a bunch once it was pointed out you were now selling an obvious counterfeit item.
This is not a well made knock off of an Eames Chair, which requires expertise to validate. It is a clear cheaply made fake which under brief examination would also show it is quartz-powered and not an automatic mechanical as claimed. Unless you are not able to tell the difference between a mechanical watch and a cheap quartz movement from china.
Have a nice weekend,"
