Just got those two. The dials look good. But movements need proper service. I’m gonna get them serviced, find 2 bracelet and then get back with more photos.
Someone did open the glass improperly and chop a small bit of the 9h hour marker.
Lacquer degradation on these black dials often at hour markers typical.
I have similar on this 168.010 but not visible on the wrist At least you know it’s not redial 😊