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A couple of 1964 165.014-63 Seamaster 300s. Same, but (slightly) different.

  1. ndgal

    ndgal Aug 14, 2019

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    I recently acquired these two 165.014-63 Seamaster 300s.
    They were manufactured exactly 5 months apart, and both look like honest and untouched examples.
    You will note that (condition aside) they are pretty similar in appearance, right down to the Green hour & minute hands which are 100% original Tritium and original to both examples.

    The example on the right is the earlier of the two. July 9th 1964 production date.
    Notice the "SWISS MADE" only dial. (No T's). Movement is Cal 550.
    The example on the left is the later of the two. November 9th 1964 production date.
    Notice the T SWISS MADE T dial where the Ts are in a lighter color which means that Omega added the T print to the dial at a later point.
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    I bought the mint condition example about a month ago from the original owner's family in South America.
    Before I received the watch, and just going by the pictures I was sent from the sellers, I was certain that the hands were changed to service hands at some point. However, upon receipt & in hand inspection of the watch, the hands checked out to be 100% original Tritium and it was clear that this is a true untouched piece in stunning condition. The best one I have ever seen.

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    The other example was purchased a couple of weeks ago, and as you can see it sports the same Greenish hands.

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    And after some Polywatch...

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    And here is a 3rd example (not mine) of a 1964 165.014-63 that I found for sale online. Notice it has the same Greenish hands and also looks to be an honest and untouched example.

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    It is interesting to see the similarities and minor differences between examples of the same reference made only a few months apart.
    According to the production dates, it is apparent that Omega added the T print to the dials between the 3rd and 4th quarter of 1964.
     
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  2. Rman

    Rman Aug 14, 2019

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    Hey friend,
    The 165.014 happens to be my favorite Seamaster reference at the moment, and I’ve been lucky to find a couple nice examples (very different patinas, greenish vs creamy) but ‘the one that got away’ and is more relevant to this thread was a ‘63 -.024 and here it is:

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    The Dial and hands are very close to your examples and it has the “added T’s” dial and hen’s tooth bezel which makes it that much cooler and more painful to me to have lost it.

    I was literally 5 minutes too late on this one and someone reserved it.
     
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  3. watchknut

    watchknut New watch + Instagram + wife = dumbass Aug 14, 2019

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    Very cool and thanks for sharing. Great looking pieces!
     
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  4. flqt-9000

    flqt-9000 Aug 15, 2019

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    great examples.
     
  5. kov

    kov Aug 15, 2019

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    Mega cool, I am getting very envious :thumbsup:
     
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  6. Delbok

    Delbok Aug 15, 2019

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    Very interesting post, thanks for sharing :thumbsup:
     
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  7. Fost

    Fost Aug 15, 2019

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    Already had some SM300 with exact same hands and I totally agree those are 100% original. Note that those unmatching patina can be found also on later reference. This post is very important because too many people are claiming service hands on this ref all the time without really knowing those are absolutely original to the watch .
    Great examples !
     
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  8. w154

    w154 Aug 15, 2019

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    Interesting !

    Here’s my 165.014-63 which also has the white Ts. Extract gives a production date of 28 September 1964, so between the two of the OP. The cal. 552 is 2067xxx so also in the middle. Hands look less green but should be original as the minute one’s a bit moldy and the seller (first owner) said it was only ever worked on once and the only thing changed was the crystal. That was back in 1970 and it sat in a drawer for almost 50 years since then. It was bought in Venezuela.

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  9. td69

    td69 Aug 15, 2019

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    Thank you for sharing. Very interesting thread. These two photos I have on file also show a similar dial/hand lume contrast. While they are .024, I believe they share the 1964's production period.

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  10. ndgal

    ndgal Aug 15, 2019

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    Very nice.
    Yes, these early 165.024s were made during the same period so it makes sense they share the dials & hands from the same batch.
     
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