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38mm Calatrava (Squirrel Bait) Style Longines 23M Arrived

  1. watchknut New watch + Instagram + wife = dumbass Jun 1, 2017

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    After a couple of weeks of not finding anything, I have my first vintage Longines incoming that should arrive Saturday.

    38mm stainless case looks to be in decent shape, and dial/hands appear original, although dial has some wear. 23M (thanks for the tip) movement looks like it is really clean, but I have no idea of how it runs.

    Overall, a pretty cool looking piece, and cannot wait to clean it up an get some proper photos. Been wanting a watch like this for awhile...
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  2. ConElPueblo Jun 1, 2017

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    Well, at least you didn't call it "Art Deco" :p

    Congrats on a great looking Longines! I can well understand you're thrilled :thumbsup:
     
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  3. DirtyDozen12 Thanks, mystery donor! Jun 1, 2017

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    That's huge. Do you have a shot of the case-back? Movement is a 23M. The crown has been replaced. The damaged regulator and broken case screw are sort of odd.
     
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  4. watchknut New watch + Instagram + wife = dumbass Jun 1, 2017

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    I don't. I found the exact case and similar serial number on a watch that Matthew Bain sold. I thought the crown may be off, and your eyes are much better than mine when looking at the movement...no clue what is going on.
     
  5. DirtyDozen12 Thanks, mystery donor! Jun 1, 2017

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    Hodinkee later sold that one. It is indeed similar.
     
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  6. watchknut New watch + Instagram + wife = dumbass Jun 1, 2017

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    Ouch...someone took a bath on it!
     
  7. adam78 Adam @ ΩF Staff Member Jun 1, 2017

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    I'd rather it be called Art Deco than a Calatrava...:confused:

    Edit: I did see the OP said "Calatrava...style", so I am feeling less queasy now.
     
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  8. GuiltyBoomerang Jun 1, 2017

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    Congrats on joining the "Calatrava....style" Longines group!

    Looking forward to seeing it after being cleaned up and on your wrist :>
     
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  9. NT931 Jun 2, 2017

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    Congrats! I've been looking for something like that for some time, so I know how hard it is to find one. Yours looks like a lovely example, LOVE those blued hands :thumbsup:
     
  10. Syrte MWR Tech Support Dept Jun 2, 2017

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    Although it would be a perfectly correct thing to call it. It is 100% art deco!
    Congrats on the find!
     
  11. Kbjohn Jun 2, 2017

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    You beat me to this one! Congrats! I hope the dial is a little better in day light
     
  12. ConElPueblo Jun 2, 2017

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    Objection!

    Surely it is Bauhaus-influenced?
     
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  13. Syrte MWR Tech Support Dept Jun 2, 2017

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    Bauhaus style is a part of the art deco trend IMHO.
    It was born in the same era-- the 1920s-- and implemented in the same era-- the 1930s mostly; all of the characteristics of art deco, streamlined geometric lines, stepped ornamental motifs-- just it's a little less busy than other examples of art deco.
    The word "art deco" comes from the 1925 "decorative arts" exhibition, I'll be damned if Bauhaus were not part of it. But even if they weren't they definitely the same inspiration.
     
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  14. ConElPueblo Jun 2, 2017

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    I think I'll continue to divide the two. Bauhaus is way less ornate and has much more emphasis on functionalism than what I'd normally associate with art deco. The Longines above could be a part of the Nomos line-up of today and I don't see anyone calling that art deco. It even has the same type of lugs, angular and functional, while the case is perfectly round. If forced to, I'd rather call the overall design ethos "modernist" and have both art deco and Bauhaus be under that umbrella :)

    Related: These type of watches is what continues to keep me from getting a Nomos or similarly designed watches - there are still objects with the original design out there, complete with the weight of 70+ years of history. You just can't beat that!
     
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  15. Syrte MWR Tech Support Dept Jun 2, 2017

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    I don't think I was saying anything different than you on what distinguishes Bauhaus, I just think you're being too narrow on art deco.
    AFAIK it wasn't a school with an explicit code like Bauhaus, it was an overall trend.

    Why no one **in the watch world** calls Nomos art deco I would say is 1/ because many people have no independent knowledge or interest in the decorative arts and 2/ is because there is marketing at play, Bauhaus is a convenient (German) marketing label to support a distinctive line of products Swatch Group attributed to their German brand Glashutte. However this design was incredibly widespread beyond Glashutte or Nomos in the old days.

    PS in any event I think we agree they share some similar traits, and so to go back to the OP's watch I would not find it shocking to call it "art deco", for lack of a "modernist" label in use in the watch world....
    Apologies @watchknut for the thread drift!
     
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  16. NT931 Jun 2, 2017

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    While the Bauhaus and Art Deco debate goes on... @watchknut I'm calling Dibs on this one! ;)

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  17. watchknut New watch + Instagram + wife = dumbass Jun 2, 2017

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    @Syrte and @ConElPueblo thanks for the history lesson! This is exactly why I love OF...i just learned more about Art Deco and Bauhaus than I knew before.

    @NT931 dibs is noted...I know how to get the watch to you :)
     
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  18. NT931 Jun 2, 2017

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  19. watchknut New watch + Instagram + wife = dumbass Jun 2, 2017

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    The DQ is my main way of selling now...incredible how important it is!
     
  20. Peemacgee Purrrr-veyor of luxury cat box loungers Jun 2, 2017

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    I'm afraid I can't help but step in and continue the thread drift @Syrte
    @conpueblo is correct
    The Bauhaus school - which was one of the main players in the the modernist movement - followed the tenet of 'form follows function' and 'less is more' and was intended to be bereft of all superfluous decoration.
    Contrary to Art Deco which by its very name espouses decorative arts.

    However if I'm not mistaken Le Corbusier did display at the 1925 exposition - his 'machine for living'

    This is where the two styles do collide as they were both born of the 'new' streamlined Machine age - a response to the hand made arts and crafts movement and art nouveau organic style