3570.40 Japan Racing Limited Hands Color

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Hi guys, a quick question since I am starting to research this model more thoroughly again, after having missed one or two chances to buy one when they were still available for a more reasonable price...

Quite a few people have converted their 3570.50 to look like a “Japan Racing Limited” (3570.40) using OEM service dial and hands.

I have read somewhere that those parts now have a sub dial hour hand that has a slightly different shade of orange than the minute counter (and sweep hand, I guess?).

Was this always the case, i.e. even for the original 3570.40 and for earlier service parts? Or is this only the case now, because, for example, they had to do another production run just for that part and it just has a different shade of orange.

I am asking
a) to identify modified vs. original watches for sale and
b) because I might just go the route of going with a modded one myself… but I would prefer it to look uniform and not have different shades of color on different hands. However, to be honest, I would be bothered less by that if the original also had it (makes little sense I know…).

Many thanks in advance!
 
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To add to this, I have looked at prior listings, auctions etc., and in a lot (but not all) of cases, it looks to me like the legit 3570.40s had this slight color difference between the hands as well. Can anybody report of their own watches or experiences?

Some examples:

https://omegaforums.net/threads/ome...nly-edition-racing-dial-omega-verified.36582/

https://omegaforums.net/threads/200...0-40-japan-limited-edition-racing-dial.75308/

https://www.phillips.com/detail/omega/HK090120/179
 
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Serial number an extract of archives will give you the genuinity of the watch without that don’t buy it.
 
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Serial number an extract of archives will give you the genuinity of the watch without that don’t buy it.
Extracts cannot be sourced on modern pieces.
 
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Oh, that is interesting for sure, thanks for sharing!
 
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I have a conversion done by Adam Lewis recently (3594.50 to a 3570.40 style) and I detect no difference in the oranges on the three hands. I also have an original Mark II racing dial from 1973 and those hands didn't match when I first bought it, the minute counter was always lighter than the other two. And after 48 years of fading they still don't match. It's a crap shoot on the orange hands because they all don't come from the same painting batch. Doesn't bother me in the least. Don't rely on color differences to separate an original from a conversion.
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Serial number an extract of archives will give you the genuinity of the watch without that don’t buy it.

Well, if you want to spend the money for information you can get without paying that's up to you.

All you have to do is call Omega with the serial number, and ask them to verify what watch reference the serial number is for.

They will look it up on the Omega Extranet, and see this:

Serial number: 77134543
Article ref: 35704000

So you can confidently buy one without an Extract certainly, if you just verify the serial number matches that of the LE in question, which takes minutes to accomplish.

Cheers, Al
 
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Archer

not everybody was extranet access , in order to buy in confidence or sale with all green lights that the ultime proof, of course before , original Warranty card 357040 with the correct serial number and a stamp form a japanese retailer would be sufficient to get rid of Mods , after depending of the sale price the EOA is the last line of proof.
 
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not everybody was extranet access

Of course, which is why I said this:

All you have to do is call Omega with the serial number, and ask them to verify what watch reference the serial number is for.
 
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also with the original stamped warranty in Japanese
Well the cut off is right around that year I thought. As noted There are other easier and cheaper ways on modern pieces to verify.

and if you have a stamped warranty??? What’s the issue?
 
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Great insights gents.

Thanks so much for chiming in @Foo2rama and @Fatcat .

I didn’t know you could simply call and have the serial checked. That is good to know, @Archer!

Also appreciate you sharing your personal experiences, @Evitzee