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  1. Deafboy His Holiness Puer Surdus Dec 30, 2015

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    I'm searching for a 1950's chronometre and I have a few question in regards to this calibre. It seems that it was offered in chronometre and non-chronometre watches. Were all 354 calibres made the same and the chronometre versions were calibrated to a higher standard? or were the 354 binned and those that performed better became chronometers (with subsequent calibration for certification?

    Also, what kind of performance (e.g. seconds/day) can we expect of a 60 year old watch that is properly serviced in the chronometre and non-chronometre versions?

    Michel
    Looking for his first vintage watch
     
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  2. Canuck Dec 30, 2015

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    According to the listing on Dr. Roland Ranfft's movement archive, the 354 is not listed as a chronometer. Nor does it indicate that a chronometer version AND a non-chronometer version was produced. The listing shows the 352 as a chronometer.

    I have a calibre 355 which I think is the same movement. This one is equipped with a micrometer regulator as one would expect on a chronometer, but it is NOT listed as a chronometer. This one, in wear, is within one minute per week. I could probably fuss with it and improve it, but it is plenty accurate for my needs.

    http://www.ranfft.de/cgi-bin/bidfun-db.cgi?10&ranfft&&2uswk&Omega_354
     
  3. Modest_Proposal Trying too hard to be one of the cool kids Dec 30, 2015

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    Here is a 343 series:
     
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  4. tdn-dk Dec 30, 2015

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    354 was used in Constellations as Chronometer cert. and also in Seamasters
     
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  5. Deafboy His Holiness Puer Surdus Dec 30, 2015

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    In fact his site does mention "partially as chronometers".

    1 minute a week sounds good to me!
     
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  6. Deafboy His Holiness Puer Surdus Dec 30, 2015

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    Also used in Centenary models, which are chronometres.
     
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  7. Alpha Kilt Owner, Beagle Parent, Omega Collector Dec 30, 2015

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    A gratuitous shot of my 354 regulator,

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  8. mac_omega Dec 30, 2015

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    I wonder about your statements...
    You should not rely too much on Ranfft
     
  9. Deafboy His Holiness Puer Surdus Dec 30, 2015

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    Calibre Porn...

    Sorta looks like Hal9000
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  10. Canuck Dec 30, 2015

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    I think that macOmega and I are interpreting what the Ranfft listing says, differently. The site says tha there were 1,300,000 watches produced in the 330 to 355 series of movements. And that in these 1,300,000 movements, 500,000 were chronometers. It does NOT specify that the 354 was one model in the series that was produced as a chronometer and non-chronometer movement! Maybe macOmega knows more than whoever it was that went to the considerable effort to compile this information?::confused2::
     
  11. Deafboy His Holiness Puer Surdus Dec 30, 2015

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    Looking at the Ranfft listing for the 352 it says "chronometer" at the location where the 354 says "partially as chronometers".
     
  12. Canuck Dec 30, 2015

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    I guess I'll satisfy myself that several posters in this thread report actually have seen calibre 354 as chronometers. The FIRST guy to reply to a particular post (me in this case), is most likely the guy who will be found as WRONG! Mea culpa!
     
  13. Deafboy His Holiness Puer Surdus Dec 30, 2015

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    I admit it can be confusing!
     
  14. tdn-dk Dec 30, 2015

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    From Omega's AJTT

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  15. Canuck Dec 30, 2015

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    Ten-dk,

    Very conclusive proof that the Ranfft information, while not entirely wrong, was not complete. I'm satisfied!
     
  16. mac_omega Dec 30, 2015

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    This is definitely wrong, the Centenary chronometers had the 28.10 JUB (in ref. 2499) and 30.10 JUB (aka 331) in the ref. 2500, later the cal. 333 also in ref. 2500
     
  17. Deafboy His Holiness Puer Surdus Dec 30, 2015

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    You are right! Newbie arrogance!:whipped: I misread a document on these watches. Apparently the 343 was also used in the 2499.
     
  18. Tony C. Ωf Jury member Dec 30, 2015

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    cal. 354...

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  19. adam78 Adam @ ΩF Staff Member Dec 31, 2015

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  20. gatorcpa ΩF InvestiGator Staff Member Dec 31, 2015

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    Earlier Cal. 354 chronometer movement in a US market Globemaster.

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    Ref. 2652-5.

    Happy New Year!
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