Hi guys,
Someone offered me this NOS 2913 / 14755...Bakelite bezel
it's not the one which was offered on eBay recently
The concave shape and the letters look correct in my point of view
What do you think ? ..genuine or Aldo ?
Thanks for your help
Cheers

 

It's a hard call. It does look correct... from a distance. And it might be, but really need sharp infocus macro shots of the outer edge and some of the numbers (five, four and three are the best). These pictures are not good enough to be 100% sure.

Anyway, I'll give it a shot
The edge looks overfilled, the numbers looks jagged, the insert is to shinny and the pip insert looks all to new for old radium.
But again could just be the picture quality.
And it's a nice re-done job if not original ! So if price isn't out of this world, I would buy.

One of my originals to the left below and "yours" to the right.

 

Take a Geiger Counter reading. If it's original, the pipper is radium.

 

Thanks guys; unfortunately I can't check it with a Geiger counter;
but I will try to get some close up shots in the course of the day...

 

Sounds reasonable...thanks for your contribution

 

That does look good, I'd buy it.

 

My understanding is that the, next generation, 14755 dials (1,2 and 61 at least) are radium lumed. Do these 14755 bezels, if the pipper is still intact, not contain radium as well?

Does anyone have a 2913 dial which is original tritium?

 

there exists dials for both, the 2913 and the 2914, without and with the double T for the tritium. Probably the tritium came up around 1963. It is always hard to see as the inner silver ring on both models almost completely cover the swiss made.

To me this bezel looks a little too glossy and too much sticking on the sides and the ground for the real bakelit think...

 

If you have a loupe, its very easy to tell the difference. Take a look at this image at full res.

 

Thanks for the good illustration! I am still waiting for the close up shots
I will upload the pics as soon as I receive them

 

Agree that Omega introduced tritium around 1963 production. And on the SM300's that's around late 1963 on the early 165.014-63's (and those are without T marks). Havn't seen any 14755 or 165.014-62's with tritium dial at all.
The problem here is that the last 2913's were produced in the first half of 1961 !!! So as the following references didn't have tritium, it's hard to believe that any 2913 did.

Well, Mike @MSNWatch has examples and I have discussed the issue with him previously... we didn't arrive at a conclusion , but his and a few more late 2913 dials I have seen, does look like tritium and have the T's. And don't look redone. I believe early replacement batch by ZJ because of the tritium/radium transition. But still inconclusive

BTW: if the bezel originally was mounted on a later 165.014, tritium in the pip would of course be likely... the OP just stated 2913/14755.

 

That's what the seller tells me..

It would be interesting to know how long omega produced the Bakelite bezels....did they stop with the production of earlier spare parts when they introduced the 4th generation SM300s...
and for how long did they supply Bakelite bezels as service part..?

 

Hi

I have seen & handled a few of these over the years....nicely done , however I feel it is a repro....

Still buy it though

Best - Neil

 

Almost impossible to tell from these images, but I tend to agree. There are a few details that look like Aldo's work, specifically the black finish spilling beyond the edges and the numbers lack the painted on look of an original bezel.

 

Ok guys I got a couple of macro shots...not many but I think they are good enough to make a judgement...

 

Here we go..

 

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And another one..