2023 Super Racing bracelet now compatible with all 44.25mm speedys?

I have a blue moonphase on leather and would love to get my hands on the new bullet style bracelet from the Super Racing model. They are both 21mm lugs and 44.25mm cases. I’m not a fan of the blockier older bracelet that comes on the outgoing racing model and black moonphase.

however - it’s my understanding that the 44.25 super racing model is using the same bracelet architecture as the chronoscope - the design is identical (keep in mind the chronoscope is 43mm case but same 21mm lugs). I’ve read on here and also been told independently that the chronoscope bracelet will NOT fit the 44.25 moonphase. Like it fits the lugs perfectly but the pin holes don’t work. If the chronoscope did fit it would be on my moonphase right now but fingers crossed maybe there is hope for the same bracelet slightly adapted for the 44.25 super racing.

I called Omega to get the ref number on the super racing bracelet to see if it were identical to the chronoscope bracelet (because then I would know it’s not worth trying). They don’t have it yet.

So what do you think?

Either

A. omega straight up reuses the exact chronoscope bracelet, thus changing the pin hole locations over the prior 44.25 racing model (which also means the older racing/moonphase bracelets are not interchangeable with the new super racing)…

or B. Omega keeps the pinhole locations the same as the outgoing 44.25 racing case and slightly tweaks the chronoscope bracelet pins with a different ref, thus making my moonphase able to accept the new bracelet.

I could see omega going with option A, particularly if all of the bullet style bracelets need a specific leverage point and pin hole locations need to be consistent with all models that offer that style bracelet, meaning it won’t be interchangeable with the moonphase or last gen racing which have pin holes set to a different bracelet style….But then again, the chronoscope is 43mm case not 44.25 so who knows, maybe the new super racing bracelet has a new ref number and slightly tweaked and interchangeable across all 44.25 speedy cases

photos below of 2023 racing, chronoscope and outgoing racing/moonphase with blocky bracelet

Bump.

Thought there would be a lot of interest from racing and moonphase guys over this new bracelet. Just like the 1861 guys that jumped all over the 3861 bullet bracelet

@Butik when you tried the chronoscope bracelet on the moonphase how far off were the lug holes? Was it close to the point of maybe bending the spring bar to get it to work? Or maybe polishing off a bit of the end link or conversely padding it? Looking at photos of case backs it looks like the distance of the holes to the case is identical or close to it, but can’t tell if maybe it’s the height of the holes that’s throwing it off.

I don’t know why manufactures do things like this. I doubt most collectors are going to buy the super racing if they already own a similar 44mm case speedy so what’s the point in changing the bracelet.
Surely theyll make more money out of people by giving them the option to buy the bracelet afterwards.
It also seems like a lot of effort to manufacture an identical case but just change the lug holes.

Beats me. After talking to omega they said bracelets are almost never interchangeable between watches even they are similar in size and design. But then again I would almost guaranty that the outgoing 44.25 racing and current 44.25 moonphase are interchangeable - same bracelet, same lug width, same case design.

It’s just a question of whether they adapted the chronoscope bracelet or maybe changed the end link to conform to the existing 44.25 case / lug holes. Or if they moved the lug hole to conform with the same chronoscope bracelet. Who knows maybe as they phase out the outgoing racing and moonphase with the older style bracelet, all the new models (such as the new super racing) sporting the chronoscope bullet style bracelet will have consistent lug hole positions (just not the same as the older models with different bracelets). That way people with like a 2016 model can’t jump ahead and get a 2023 bracelet. Time for a new watch. Whereas it’s less of a concern for someone with a 2021 Chronoscope have interchangeability with a 2023 super racing.

I bought this bracelet from omega for my moonphase and sure it didn’t fit. Now I am checking with them if they will refund me since they told me that it should fit.

The bracelet isn’t out yet. I think you bought maybe the chromosome bracelet? It’s the same design but potentiallly different endlink from the super racing. I tried the chromosome bracelet at the store and it didn’t fit either. Pinholes don’t line up

I did buy the super racing bracelet indeed through Burdeen jeweler in Chicago who ordered it for me through his omega connection. The omega folks didn’t straight up recommend but said it should fit. Bump, it didn’t .

Here is the serial number

I will go back to my jeweler and see if slightly, bending the pins will do the trick. I’ll post any update.

Yeah that’s the SKU for the chronoscope bracelet. Same one I tried on. I’ve been told the SKU for the super racing won’t be out until the actually watch is out (August/September) and the actual part may not be readily available for a couple months after that.

Either your dealer 1. Has information to the contrary and has confirmed the chronoscope bracelet is unchanged for the super racing with the identical SKU, or 2. Simply thinking that bracelet is the same because it’s a 21mm in the same exact design

the only saving grace is that omega changed the endlinks for the chronoscope bracelet and left the pinholes in the same location as the outgoing racing (same as the moonphase) but Omega is saying the new super racing bracelet doesn’t have a SKU yet.

Any luck adjusting the pins?

Going this Saturday

Burdeen jewelers in Chicago are the biggest Midwest watchmakers. They feel that they will be able to do it

Nice. So success??

For what it's worth, chronoscope bracelet on the racing works with thinner spring bars no problem. I chose to stick with the stock bracelet though because the chronoscope is way to thing at the clasp for the 44mm beast and looks way too dainty

You are my savior. Thank you. Do you recall what size spring bars you used? Did you have to bend them? And did you/AD/or jeweler do the install?

my AD tried the chronoscope install and said no beans and left me packing. But used the standard spring bar. So if I go back to buy it, it’s totally on me / someone else to get it to work no refunds.

This was my Omega boutique that test fit on a speedy racing for me to see if it would work on the new panda dial I was buying. He used whatever the thinner spring bars are that omega sells. It fit fine though I just didn't like the look on the big 44mm very aggressive taper.

Also no bends on the bars

Called my AD. They still have the chronoscope bracelet in stock. The same one I tried a couple months ago. But said they will only install on springbar that comes with the bracelet. They have a policy against using thinner spring bars even if omega branded since they don’t want to be liable. Called a few other ADs that don’t have the chronoscope bracelet and when asked if they would install on a thinner spring bar also said no. Hmmmm. Guess I may need to purchase it from the original AD and roll the dice on getting it to work since I can’t return it. Putting my faith in you that it works lol. If perrybal gets his to work too that it sounds like definitely a no brainer to have a go

Burdeen’s could not install it even with bending the spring bar. So, no luck

It didn’t work