2023 Formula 1 Thread

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That's a non-argument, it's plenty warm enough during the daytime in early December in Las Vegas.
.. and the cold conditions for the nighttime race that we've just witnessed, provided a thrilling race. They'd be crazy to bring It forward.
The attraction of LV is the night life and the over the top lighting on the Strip casinos, F1 is not crazy enough to run this race during the day, this will always be a night race. Run it in the day and you'd have a lot less interest. Next year the race is on Nov 23, but it won't be that late in subsequent years.
 
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Carlos is playing golf with Lando tomorrow. How nice. That is why he will never be like Schumacher. Schumacher would be back at Maranello pissed off as can be.
 
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The attraction of LV is the night life and the over the top lighting on the Strip casinos, F1 is not crazy enough to run this race during the day, this will always be a night race. Run it in the day and you'd have a lot less interest. Next year the race is on Nov 23, but it won't be that late in subsequent years.

they are running it 5 hours after sundown. So they could move it up so iDK it’s not a 1am on the east coast of America. I’m stead they wanted to run it for EU times.
 
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I noticed that too the past few races. Some overtakes are completely missed and are shown on replay instead. I'm not talking about some overtake of 19th vs 18th but action where points are on the line.

Yes, Las Vegas was actually pretty poor, I seem to remember they have different producers for different circuits, which might provide some explanation as to the lack of consistency.
 
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The attraction of LV is the night life and the over the top lighting on the Strip casinos, F1 is not crazy enough to run this race during the day, this will always be a night race. Run it in the day and you'd have a lot less interest. Next year the race is on Nov 23, but it won't be that late in subsequent years.

Yeah, all the lights and fake Eiffel Tower and the like do look better at night, maybe they could do 50/50, the track would still retain quite a lot of temperature for quite some time after sunset.
 
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After Checo was allowed past Charles I was watching the gap to George via the F1.com live timing app. Charles was about 2.6 sec behind Checo and 1.8 ahead of George. That adds to 4.4 sec which has little headroom to the 5.0 penalty. Backing towards George would also put him within DRS range and while George is not in the league of Danny Ric in his heyday as the master of the late lunge he's no slouch 😀

Thanks for the numbers, it still could have worked, and I'm surprised that Ferrari didn't tell Leclerc to try it, it was worth a great deal to the team, far more than a second place on the podium. I think it's not in Leclerc's nature to do something like that, although I'm pretty sure he would have followed team orders or advice.
 
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Thanks for the numbers, it still could have worked, and I'm surprised that Ferrari didn't tell Leclerc to try it, it was worth a great deal to the team, far more than a second place on the podium. I think it's not in Leclerc's nature to do something like that, although I'm pretty sure he would have followed team orders or advice.

Maybe if Leclerc has given DRS after the corner in order to give some extra speed to Checo and maybe slo?ing down George in the last sector.
Let's see the development for next year, I think RB will still be in front by far. Then we can have a huge battle between AM, Ferrari, Mercedes and McLaren.
 
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Be interesting to see if AM are in the fight. Kind of get the impression Stroll Snr is tiring of the F1 project and AM cars is burning cash faster than The KLF. So will they have the money to keep up in the development race?
 
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Well. I can't believe that Stroll snr is not encouraged by this first part of the year. Alonso have 8 podiums, more than Ferrari and Mercedes. His son is quite embarrassing but still at the end of the year, he made 2 strong races. I am sure that Aston Martin sell more cars now than before one year. If all of that is about his son then yes we can have some doubts but if he is a real business man, he will continue pushing to be in the frony rows.
New factory, new engineers.
 
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Be interesting to see if AM are in the fight. Kind of get the impression Stroll Snr is tiring of the F1 project and AM cars is burning cash faster than The KLF. So will they have the money to keep up in the development race?

Apparently, some of that KLF money made its way into a certain person's pocket..
That's from the horse's (or, in his case, Jackass's) mouth😉
 
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Well. I can't believe that Stroll snr is not encouraged by this first part of the year. Alonso have 8 podiums, more than Ferrari and Mercedes. His son is quite embarrassing but still at the end of the year, he made 2 strong races. I am sure that Aston Martin sell more cars now than before one year. If all of that is about his son then yes we can have some doubts but if he is a real business man, he will continue pushing to be in the frony rows.
New factory, new engineers.
With the cost cap and capex ceiling, he shouldn't be lighting money on fire anymore except for paying Alonso.
 
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A KLF money burning reference in 2023!

This is why I love this forum.
 
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Well. I can't believe that Stroll snr is not encouraged by this first part of the year. Alonso have 8 podiums, more than Ferrari and Mercedes. His son is quite embarrassing but still at the end of the year, he made 2 strong races. I am sure that Aston Martin sell more cars now than before one year. If all of that is about his son then yes we can have some doubts but if he is a real business man, he will continue pushing to be in the frony rows.
New factory, new engineers.

I really don't think they have sold more cars. They may have delivered more cars to their reluctant dealers but that's not the same thing. Geely are circling, it's only a matter of time in my opinion. When they do I think the "sponsorship" of the F1 team would be in doubt I would suggest.
 
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After Checo was allowed past Charles I was watching the gap to George via the F1.com live timing app. Charles was about 2.6 sec behind Checo and 1.8 ahead of George. That adds to 4.4 sec which has little headroom to the 5.0 penalty. Backing towards George would also put him within DRS range and while George is not in the league of Danny Ric in his heyday as the master of the late lunge he's no slouch 😀
That Carlos happened to hit the drain in Las Vegas likely took the 2nd place away from Ferrari… such a shame to have something entirely out of a driver and teams control dictate a major outcome like that.
 
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That Carlos happened to hit the drain in Las Vegas likely took the 2nd place away from Ferrari… such a shame to have something entirely out of a driver and teams control dictate a major outcome like that.

It was a rubbish thing to happen and was handled very badly, but it's just one of many Ferrari problems, mistakes. errors etc. from the entire season that could be equally attributable.
 
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That Carlos happened to hit the drain in Las Vegas likely took the 2nd place away from Ferrari… such a shame to have something entirely out of a driver and teams control dictate a major outcome like that.
Not like Mercedes wasn't screwed by something that cost them a championship.
 
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It was a rubbish thing to happen and was handled very badly, but it's just one of many Ferrari problems, mistakes. errors etc. from the entire season that could be equally attributable.
This is my view also - Ferrari should have been miles clear in second and shoot themselves in the foot with strategy/ indecisiveness too often. Mercedes on the other hand have over performed with a relatively crap car.

interesting what next year brings
 
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interesting what next year brings
Doubt it. Red Bull already has 4 months on everybody. Adrian Newey is by far the guy to beat. Betting by September 15 Red Bull wins both constructors and drivers. Mercedes is going to be nowhere again because they only employ Prima Donna’s who do nothing but complain. Ferrari will be Ferrari. McLaren may do ok. Aston Martin only have stones because of Alonso, they will probably do ok as well.
 
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I don’t think 2023 has showed anywhere close to what that Red Bull was capable of. With unlimited engines I would be be willing to bet Max could have lapped the field on multiple occasions. He held back.