1969 Speedmaster Mark II Bracelet ID: 1171 vs 1162

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Well, summer is approaching and I am looking for a few extra links for my father's Speemaster Mark II, but I am having trouble identifying it.

He had said he purchased it in Bermuda in 1969 while on holiday / honeymoon with my mother (she also got a very nice Omega, which she still has).

I am trying to find a reference, but all I can see stamped inside the folding clasp is "Stainless Steel" then the "Omega Logo" and then "No. 12" inside a circle (I tried to get a photo, but it didn't come out right).

Below is a (horrible) photo of the outside of the clasp with the stamped Omega logo (iPhone refuses to focus on the bracelet, but loves the towel).

Can anyone help me identify it ?

Many thanks in advance !


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Thanks!

From that post, it seems there are two versions of the 1162, one with the raised Omega logo (like the one I have) and the newer sunken logo.

These are the two links I have found for sale locally. They claim it is from a vintage 1162 bracelet, but I see they have threads on the ends of the pins:



Whereas my father's has what look like the typical pins you push in / out. Both sides look the same and there is no slot for the head of a screwdriver.



So it seems they went with different pins as well. And that the links in the first photo are not compatible with the bracelet that I have ?
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What I can add is that the end links are stamped "311", which I am imagining is the type of stainless that was used to make the bracelet.

I have tried to do some research, and came across this article from 2019 from Fratello, talking about Speedmaster bracelets (absent is the mention of the Mark ii Speedmaster).

https://www.fratellowatches.com/legendary-vintage-bracelets-omega-reference-1039/

When the article talks about the production date being stamped on the clasp, mine does not have this. Nor does it have a model number. I know that policies can change within companies, and sometimes errors are made or things forgotten (the infamous Rolex Air-King with two "9" hour markers).

Maybe it broke and my father had it replaced and this is what the Omega store could order / had available ? I don't know, and will never know.

So, I am going to ask the watchmaker if he knows (he worked for Omega) and maybe he has some spare links in the 1000 different drawers in his workshop.
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The bracelet on your father’s watch looks like an early unstamped 1171. Because of the older style logo on the clasp and the missing reference stamp on the inner side of the clasp, these can be mistaken for 1175 bracelets. To me the give away for yours though is the rounded, more elliptical, shape of the side profile of the bracelet links which is common on the 1171 bracelet.

I’ve also seen quite a few 145.014 examples fitted with the 1171.
 
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Your bracelet is a circled 12 usually observed in watches sold in the american market. Standard 1162 links will not fit
 
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The bracelet on your father’s watch looks like an early unstamped 1171. Because of the older style logo on the clasp and the missing reference stamp on the inner side of the clasp, these can be mistaken for 1175 bracelets. To me the give away for yours though is the rounded, more elliptical, shape of the side profile of the bracelet links which is common on the 1171 bracelet.

I’ve also seen quite a few 145.014 examples fitted with the 1171.
Thanks, I will try to find one !
 
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Your bracelet is a circled 12 usually observed in watches sold in the american market. Standard 1162 links will not fit
I was wrong, it was purchased in Bermuda in 1969, not the Bahamas. So maybe Bermuda's Omega dealer back then received their watches through the US distribution network ?
 
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Well, I have tried in vain to find links for the 1171 bracelet. It is impossible here in Europe as it was a North American item (thanks for the info @flqt-9000 )

Replacement bracelets are not inexpensive either. Nor are parts of the 861. Separately they are more expensive compared to buying an entire watch.

So, I purchased a Speedmaster Mark ii and will swap the bracelet and use it as a parts donor if necessary (and only if necessary / parts cannot be found). I will post photos when I receive it.
 
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It has arrived!

It is so easy to wind up compared to my father's.

I have decided to wear this one in warmer months (it fits perfectly and still has 2 adjustment levels on the bracelet), and my father's in colder months (which is at the max for the bracelet already).

 
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^^^ Looks good. There are several bracelets that came on the MKII, mine came on an 1159 which has two polished accent links. I've had the watch since new from 1973 and the bracelet was pretty stretched out so I replaced it with an Uncle bracelet with push button clasp, a really nice bracelet clasp for not a lot of money. So that is always an option too.
 
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Thanks!

From that post, it seems there are two versions of the 1162, one with the raised Omega logo (like the one I have) and the newer sunken logo.

These are the two links I have found for sale locally. They claim it is from a vintage 1162 bracelet, but I see they have threads on the ends of the pins:



Whereas my father's has what look like the typical pins you push in / out. Both sides look the same and there is no slot for the head of a screwdriver.



So it seems they went with different pins as well. And that the links in the first photo are not compatible with the bracelet that I have ?
Many of the US market bracelets (JB Champion) used small spring bars in the removable links.
 
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Got mine on the secondary market. Has a tropical dial and came with a Holzer bracelet which looks to be original to it.

 
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The bracelet on your father’s watch looks like an early unstamped 1171. Because of the older style logo on the clasp and the missing reference stamp on the inner side of the clasp, these can be mistaken for 1175 bracelets. To me the give away for yours though is the rounded, more elliptical, shape of the side profile of the bracelet links which is common on the 1171 bracelet.

I’ve also seen quite a few 145.014 examples fitted with the 1171.
Are the 1171 links all screw-in or are some spring bar?
 
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I’ve ever had an 1171 in my ownership, but of the ones I’ve seen in person and online, I can’t recall ever seeing a screw-in example. All have been the double sided small spring bars but I’m sure others who have an 1171 bracelet can chime in here.