1966 Steel Omega ‘Pie Pan’ Constellation, Calendar - 168.005

ICONO · Jun 13, 2014

1966 Steel Omega ‘Pie Pan’ Constellation, Calendar - 168.005.

Original Omega ‘Rice Grain’ Bracelet, & Red leather Constellation box.

Beautiful stainless steel case, in excellent condition - Very tiny wearing marks - Measures an elegant 34mm ( without crown ) x 43mm.

Omega Silver dial - in truly superb condition - with just the barest traces of ageing.

Stainless steel ‘Dauphine Hands’, & Markers, in terrific order.

Observatory logo is in very crisp, clean condition.

Omega crown - 10 sided crown, winds and sets, very smoothly.

Brand new Omega crystal, with logo present at centre, fitted last week.

Calibre. 561. - Timekeeping is excellent.

http://www.omegawatches.com/planet-omega/heritage/vintage-omegas/vintage-watches-database?ref=14553

Movement Serial Number 23952711 - Dating the watch to approx 1966.

Calendar function operates perfectly - Completing change over at 11.55pm.

Included within the Sale :

Original 21 x Link Omega ‘Rice Grain’ bracelet - ‘Code 1502 No.12’ with ‘12’ end pieces.
The bracelet will fit a 7.5” snugly, & has been ultrasonically cleaned, prior to the Sale.

Original luxury red leather 'Omega Constellation Presentation Box' , in very good condition, with minor surface scuffs. - Hinges working perfectly - There is no inner tray present.

The Constellation looks stunning on the wrist - Please examine the images.

Images are taken with a Leica, & colour balanced, to give as clear & accurate, a portrayal of the watch, as possible.

£1250 Paypal / Bank Transfer.

I will split PayPal fees with the buyer 2% - Shipping cost to be determined, dependent upon location, & method selected - But only at the actual cost.

If anyone wishes for, additional photography ? / additional details ? / to ask a question ? - Please just contact me privately. - I will respond as swiftly, as my schedule permits.

As a reference for my personal integrity, & accuracy: - I have sold 2 x Constellations, previously on this Forum.

I have also sold Omega watches, before, on Ebay, as : ' thegirlandi '- 100% positive feedback.

I am not a 'Dealer', but an English University Staff Tutor, & a Lecturer in 'Creativity & Design'.

This vintage Omega Constellation is offered with a 3 x day inspection period from the date of receipt and may be returned for a full purchase refund, not including shipping costs.
This refund is unconditional, and once I receive the watch back, ( in exactly the same condition as it was sent to you, please ), your money will be refunded.

Self evidently, once the 3 days are over, the Sale will be considered final.

Hotwheelbill · Jun 13, 2014

Very Nice. GLWS.

ICONO · Jun 13, 2014

In response to enquiries - Yes - Perfectly content to ship Globally.

Suggested method would be Royal Mail 'International Tracked, & Signed For' - Tracked all the way from despatch, to receipt - Extremely reliable & super quick.

dsio · Jun 13, 2014

Is it just the pictures or is the surround on the date window yellow gold?

Nova1978 · Jun 15, 2014

http://omega-constellation-collecto...01/dont-buy-14900-168005-or-167005-omega.html

Hi...nice watch but this link get me worried though

isospin · Jun 15, 2014

Nova1978
http://omega-constellation-collecto...01/dont-buy-14900-168005-or-167005-omega.html

Hi...nice watch but this link get me worried though

Well, to be fair, the OP has offered a 3 day inspection period. If you have a local watchmaker or dealer, that is more than enough time to take the watch there and get any concerns addressed.

It's a beautiful watch, and I myself would take an immediate jump at this if funds permitted.

Nova1978 · Jun 16, 2014

isospin
Well, to be fair, the OP has offered a 3 day inspection period. If you have a local watchmaker or dealer, that is more than enough time to take the watch there and get any concerns addressed.

It's a beautiful watch, and I myself would take an immediate jump at this if funds permitted.

very true..but if..only if the watch turn out to be something else, then I am out of shipping cost - to ship back to someone in Europe and then cost for the watchmaker to verify the authenticity. Unless someone in here will chime in, i am just asking the questions...yes I am looking for a constellation

ICONO · Jun 16, 2014

Nova1978
very true..but if..only if the watch turn out to be something else, then I am out of shipping cost - to ship back to someone in Europe and then cost for the watchmaker to verify the authenticity. Unless someone in here will chime in, i am just asking the questions...yes I am looking for a constellation

I have taken 22 x very high resolution, macro images to show exactly the condition, & overall appearance of the Omega 168.005 Constellation.

I have ensured that every angle is covered, & every detail is portrayed as clearly, & cleanly, as possible.

I have given an unconditional guarantee of a refund, if the watch is not what I describe it to be.

I have 120 Feedback, all positive, through my eBay identity - For overwhelming accuracy, & honesty.

I am a Professional Academic, I have traceable accountability, and a frequent presence on this Forum.

The 168.005 Constellation is exactly what is portrayed in the images - If you have the slightest doubts about its authenticity,
or my personal integrity - I would respectfully suggest, ...........You need to look elsewhere to purchase.

alam · Jun 16, 2014

dsio
Is it just the pictures or is the surround on the date window yellow gold?

Did I miss the response to this question?

ICONO · Jun 17, 2014

alam
Did I miss the response to this question?

Apologies for not answering this question earlier - I have been away at a conference for last two days. ( Sans watch ! )

I cannot explain the 'Goldish tint' to the Date window - When one looks in pure daylight, it is far less apparent.

I suspect that, because I took so much care to colour balance the images, - to as close as possible, to a 'pure white' in the highlights - this has actually enhanced the colour around the Date Window.

The colour temperature could also, to a small extent, be exaggerated by the pure penetrating power, of the commercial flash heads / soft boxes, I use in my Studio.

The appearance, under a strong loupe ( an inverted Nikon lens ), is actually like the patina that occurs from nicotine - it is not a solid tone, as one would expect from a pure gold sheen ( plating / solid ) , - it is actually patchy.

Having done a quick internet search, I have seen other 168.005 Constellations with this same 'look', - a golden warmth to the Date Window.

Therefore, I am going to withdraw the 168.005 Constellation from Sale, on this Forum, until my 'Rolex Trained' Watchmaker can examine / clean, or if necessary, replace the Date window.

This is the same Watchmaker who installed the new Omega crystal two weeks ago, & did not find any discrepancy / 'question of authenticity' in the Constellation, when he checked the regulation, & lubricated the watch for me, prior to sale.

In all likelihood, when the watch returns to me, I will take it to the eBay Selling platform.

My thanks to all those members who PM'd interest, offers, or even, just simple, courteous support.

isospin · Jun 17, 2014

Are we overreacting just a bit here?

While posts casting a veil of doubt on the authenticity of a watch without citing any specifics with regard to the watch itself are unfair and fully deserving of rebuke, posts simply asking questions about a watch are perfectly legitimate and should be welcomed with gratitude.

It is unfortunate you have chosen to react by "withdrawing this watch." It is certainly fine if you choose to, but exihibits a little bit of the puerile "I'll take my ball and go home" attitude.

ICONO · Jun 17, 2014

isospin
Are we overreacting just a bit here?

While posts casting a veil of doubt on the authenticity of a watch without citing any specifics with regard to the watch itself are unfair and fully deserving of rebuke, posts simply asking questions about a watch are perfectly legitimate and should be welcomed with gratitude.

It is unfortunate you have chosen to react by "withdrawing this watch." It is certainly fine if you choose to, but exihibits a little bit of the puerile "I'll take my ball and go home" attitude.

There is no question of 'taking one's ball home'.

Although I come from a creative background of moral ambiguity , ( 25 years as a leading Advertising Photographer ),
........where my integrity is concerned, I only work in absolutes.

A perfectly fair, & reasonable question / comment was raised by Ash, regarding the colour of the Date Window - I cannot answer that question absolutely accurately - Simply because I cannot access that component myself - That task is for my Watchmaker.

That inability to respond authoritatively, could be perceived as evasive, or deceitful, with a commensurate impact on one's credibility & the consequent value of the Sale.

So I am slightly mystified ? - Where is the puerility in accepting that I cannot respond appropriately, & withdrawing until I can do so ?

Surely that is a mature adult attitude ? ........" I do not fight battles in fields, I do not know " Old Spanish proverb

I always choose my words very carefully, & precisely, when addressing a public platform, so as not cause unnecessary offence,
or to be misinterpreted - Perhaps you might consider doing the same.

isospin · Jun 17, 2014

ICONO
There is no question of 'taking one's ball home'.

Although I come from a creative background of moral ambiguity , ( 25 years as a leading Advertising Photographer ),
........where my integrity is concerned, I only work in absolutes.

A perfectly fair, & reasonable question / comment was raised by Ash, regarding the colour of the Date Window - I cannot answer that question absolutely accurately - Simply because I cannot access that component myself - That task is for my Watchmaker.

That inability to respond authoritatively, could be perceived as evasive, or deceitful, with a commensurate impact on one's credibility & the consequent value of the Sale.

So I am slightly mystified ? - Where is the puerility in accepting that I cannot respond appropriately, & withdrawing until I can do so ?

Surely that is a mature adult attitude ? ........" I do not fight battles in fields, I do not know " Old Spanish proverb

I always choose my words very carefully, & precisely, when addressing a public platform, so as not cause unnecessary offence,
or to be misinterpreted - Perhaps you might consider doing the same.

Well, you said you will withdraw and take it to eBay when you get it back. All this apparently because you felt as though your integrity was challenged by legitimate questions. You could have simply answered that you need to consult with your watchmaker first. Your attitude seems unmistakeably childish to me.

Vintage · Jun 17, 2014

When someone questions the integrity of a person, in this case seller, I think this is a normal reaction.
We lost the angle of this discussion:
Nova 1978 say: " Hi...nice watch but this link get me worried though" and then : "very true..but if..only if the watch turn out to be something else, then I am out of shipping cost - to ship back to someone in Europe and then cost for the watchmaker to verify the authenticity. Unless someone in here will chime in, i am just asking the questions...yes I am looking for a constellation"
If anybody here thing that this is nice to post and helps to sell the watch...think again.
If you have a doubt, ask the seller by messages. If you have the evidence that this is " maybe a fake" then tell open and public, as Nova 1978 did....without any concern and gratuit.

ICONO · Jun 17, 2014

isospin
Well, you said you will withdraw and take it to eBay when you get it back. All this apparently because you felt as though your integrity was challenged by legitimate questions. You could have simply answered that you need to consult with your watchmaker first. Your attitude seems unmistakeably childish to me.

I reiterate......again........there is no 'febrile convulsion' whatsoever, in my decision to withdraw the watch - I only work in absolute accuracy, as anyone has the right to expect,..........of any Member of this Forum.

If I cannot provide that accurate information - I should not be selling the watch...............When I can - I will.

Whilst on location, in the past, with my Team, I have enjoyed, a number of times, .....the innate kindness, 'old world' courtesy, & natural, easy charm of those Americans, who come from Texas.

I am quite sure, you appreciate your opinion - Thank you for your expert insight.

CanberraOmega · Jun 17, 2014

ICONO, I thank you for your honest and detailed response to @dsio's question.
i've been very tempted by this watch a couple of times, and had the hour markers had onyx in them, you would have had a sale very quickly.

isospin · Jun 17, 2014

ICONO
I reiterate......again........there is no 'febrile convulsion' whatsoever, in my decision to withdraw the watch - I only work in absolute accuracy, as anyone has the right to expect,..........of any Member of this Forum.

If I cannot provide that accurate information - I should not be selling the watch...............When I can - I will.

Whilst on location, in the past, with my Team, I have enjoyed, a number of times, .....the innate kindness, 'old world' courtesy, & natural, easy charm of those Americans, who come from Texas.

I am quite sure, you appreciate your opinion - Thank you for your expert insight.

Despite my admittedly flippant earlier remarks, I can assure you that most who know me will likely vouch for my positive contribution to the Texan natural kindness and friendly charm you allude to. Next time you come this way, send me a PM and we can go have some great barbecue on me.

Frankly, when you posted the watch, I was immediately interested and downloaded the pictures on my tablet and dropped by the watch store on the way in to work to get my trusted watchmaker's opinion on its authenticity, condition, and market value, so I could have the information to make an offer if I wanted to. He couldn't really help me much out on this piece as he claims no expertise on these, but I was a little bummed to see the piece withdrawn before I could seek any other opinions. I suspect it would not have irked me as much to if it had sold by then - although the outcome in the end would have been the same for me. Funny how the mind works now that I think of it this way!

Please accept my apologies. I did not need to say anything here.

1966 Steel Omega ‘Pie Pan’ Constellation, Calendar - 168.005

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